The nature of medical practice dictates that we will have tough cases. Patients will die, we will have to deliver bad news, and we will, at some point, make mistakes. We have high expectations of ourselves so when we get figuratively knocked down, how do we get back up? In this episode, performance coach Jason Brooks guides us through strategies for dealing with the emotional and intellectual fallout of a bad case as well as how to re-engage during a shift when the last thing we feel like doing is seeing the next patient.   Guest bio:  Jason Brooks Ph.D. is a performance coach helping healthcare providers, athletes, and other high-level performers live better, work better, and be better. Check him out at Phenomenal Docs and connect with Jason: Facebook, Twitter, email doctorjbro@Gmail.com ﻿Awake and Aware | Our 2024 Live Event Join us at Awake and Aware 2024, a transformative 3-day workshop from May 1st to 3rd in Bend, Oregon. Mitigate stress and stay cool under pressure. Create the mindset you want and lock it in. Limited slots. Website: Awakeandawarebend.com 16.25 Hours Category 1 AMA CME The Flameproof CourseThis is the hidden anti-burnout curriculum we all should have learned in training. Cohort 3 begins Sept 10, 2024. Get the deets   For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website We discuss:The fact that no matter how good you are in your medical practice, you are not immune to a bad outcome [02:20];How to manage the sense of failure and the anxiety that naturally occurs when you’re faced with the same situation again [04:00];The importance of getting prepared ahead of time and expecting bad things to happen [06:00]Channeling the experience into something positive [08:25];Learning to live with and honor these experiences, rather than dread them [10:00];Drawing a lesson from a bad event and committing to apply that lesson [16:30];The value of talking to someone who is able to receive your emotional turmoil in the immediate aftermath of a bad outcome [18:40];Why we shouldn’t think of it as “bouncing back” from a terrible outcome [23:00];What do you do when you’ve had a bad outcome, but you don’t have the time to process what’s happened before your next shift [29:00];The importance of having a process that you can trust to be effective in helping you shift your attention back to where it needs to be [32:25];And more. 


65. Bouncing Back After a Tough Case

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"Kicking the can down the road" is a common behavior that manifests in various ways, from delaying difficult patient decisions to avoiding complex tasks. We explore the reasons behind on-shift procrastination and strategies for overcoming it. Our discussion includes practical steps to recognize and address decision deferral, techniques for managing aversion to some decisions, and pre-loading accountability. We also highlight the importance of building decision-making resilience and creating systematic pathways to streamline the decisional process.  For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website We Discuss:What does it mean to kick the can down the road?How procrastination shows up on a clinical shiftWhy does procrastination happen?It doesn't take much dread for can-kicking to occurAvoidance AwarenessDecisional InterrogationKicking the can because deciding will set off a cascade of more workAvoiding the infinite test of timeIdentify how, when, and where you’ll make high-level decisionsLong term guests | How is it that decisions can finally be made when the shift is over?ChunkingZero in on your critical decision pointsKicking the can at work: pick one thing and identify YOUR decision pointsPreloading accountabilityPerfectionists get caught in a tree when they're actually in a tunnel
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Kicking The Can Down The Road | How to break up with deciding not to decide

How do you build a team in the critical first moments of a crisis? The balance between rapid response and thoughtful planning is delicate, especially when understanding what defines a crisis and acknowledging when you're in the midst of one. This conversation delves into the complexity of emergency team dynamics, emphasizing that the composition and organization of these teams are deeply influenced by their members' specific skills and contexts, with lasting implications long after the crisis has passed. We introduce 'Name, Claim, Aim'—a straightforward, three-step framework designed to streamline team organization under pressure. It's about rapid situational assessment, clear role delegation, and setting concise objectives. The discussion extends to effective leadership in high-stakes situations, including establishing command, ensuring effective communication from the start, and striking the right balance to encourage team input without compromising decisiveness. Exploring the subtleties of crisis leadership, we'll discuss the strategic balance needed for effective oversight and the practicality of 'Name, Claim, Aim' as a distilled version of more complex crisis management theories tailored for the immediacy of emergency care. The conversation will also cover the practical implementation of this framework, from team huddles to understanding the profound impact of the first few seconds on the trajectory of team success. This episode builds on episode 115 - Zero Warning | Frameworks for no notice critical patients Guest Bio: Lon Setnik, MD, is an emergency physician practicing in New Hampshire and the associate director of clinical programs at the Center for Medical Simulation. Lon is a Stimulus fan favorite. Here are some of his most popular episodes:Listening to Understand versus Listening to WinFeedback can be hard to give and harder to receive. Here are techniques to do both betterTake the Suck out of Documentation | Making the most of scribes, documenting in the room (and in front of the patient), efficient workflows
For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website We discuss:The tension between planning and actionWhat defines a crisis?How do you know when you're in a crisis?Teams are contextual in their skill setsHow you organize a team in a crisis has ripples after the event has endedThe three steps to organizing teams in a crisis: Name, Claim, AimHow to declare yourself as a team leaderModeling closed-loop communication from the first moments of team formationThe balance between being a tyrant vs an effective leader and how to avoid suppressing speaking-up behaviorsThe two pillars of Aiming what we want to achieve and who is going to do what to get us thereName, Claim, Aim needs to be fast and efficient; otherwise, people will just start getting to work without organizingBalancing the balcony and the dance floor | The impulse in crisis is to do. The leader does not have to be the primary operator, but it's hard to hold back!As a team leader, it's ideal to keep...

How to Create a Team in 10 Seconds | Why time is not linear and every second not worth the same

Will you have enough money to retire? What does that even mean? In this pod, our guest physician financial coach, Elisa Chiang, M.D. Ph.D. breaks down Trading time for money and money for timeWorking harder vs creating valueThe FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) movement and why it doesn't always mean living by austerity rulesThe risk of relying solely on retirement accounts to fund your post-career lifeHer biggest financial mistakeHow identity influences spending habitsIncorporating real estate into an investment portfolio
Guest Bio: Elizabeth ‘Elisa’ Chiang, M.D. Ph.D. is a board-certified ophthalmologist and fellowship-trained oculoplastic surgeon who found her way into personal finance and real estate investing during her MSTP program, aspiring for FIRE long before it became mainstream. Battling burnout from her work in a hospital system, she turned to real estate as her avenue to financial independence, complemented by her newfound passion for life coaching. With active involvement in rental properties and passive investments in syndications and real estate funds, Elisa now helps others achieve financial independence while embracing life's journey. Learn more at https://www.growyourwealthymindset.com/ For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website We discuss:Why a high income does not equate to wealthWorking harder vs creating valueOnce debt is gone, attention to money can dwindle Finding a place to start investing can be overwhelming and lead to inertiaHow to navigate a scarcity mindsetHow identity influences spending habitsMoney can buy time, but there's a catchElisa's biggest financial mistakesHow to decide if a real estate investment is a good (or bad) dealElisa’s big-picture financial strategyReal estate investing for positive cash flowIf you only think about maxing out your retirement account, you probably won't retain the same lifestyle when you stop workingBeyond real estate investing, what are other areas for investment to produce cash flow?F.I.R.E Financial Independence Retire Early | Survival, Regular, and Fat FIREHow to figure out how much FIRE money you'll need to stop workingWill my retirement funds actually last? Rate of withdrawal and sequence of returns risk Fat FIRE | Spending more in retirement than you did while working
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Thinking Outside Your Retirement Account | working harder vs creating value

Phantasia Kataleptike, a lesser-known gem from Stoic philosophy, offers a transformative approach to life's challenges. This practice of 'objective representation' strips away the layers of subjective judgment that often cloud our perceptions. Imagine the power of viewing a setback not as a disaster but simply as a fact of life, a moment ripe with potential for growth. How does this shift affect our inner turmoil? The Stoics had insights that might surprise you, blending ancient wisdom with actionable strategies for modern living.  In this pod, we break down the essence of Phantasia Kataleptike and multiple methods for employing it as a tool for equanimity and de-catastrophization.  For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website The Flameproof CourseThis is the hidden anti-burnout curriculum we all should have learned in training. Cohort 3 begins Sept 10, 2024. Get the deets   We Discuss:Defining Phantasia KataptikeAcceptance of what isA dog and a cart | Epictetus’ classic simileWhy the words we use impact us as much as (or more than) they impact othersThe lost shipThe A-hole in a JaguarOperationalziing Phantasia KataleptikeValence | Awareness of emotion and narrative The Dichotomy of ControlHow to Think Like a Roman EmperorActively de-catastrophizing Shifting from ‘what if’ to ‘why did’ to ‘so what?’ to ‘what’s next’The threat-challenge seesawWhat to do when the emperor banishes youThe counterarguments to Phantasia Kataleptike
Mentioned in this episode: 4 Free Resources specifically designed to address pain points in medical practice Scripting your least favorite conversations | 
The Driveway Debrief | 
My 4 favorite documentation templates | 
The quick and dirty guide to calling consults  Free Resources Link Out On Time Course Finishing shifts with a stack of charts to complete gets old fast. It also contributes to burnout.
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Phantasia Kataleptike | The secret skill of Stoicism

Have you ever found yourself deep in “The Pit” where the mere thought of going back to work triggers an existential crisis? You wonder if your current job is the right choice. Sometimes, all it takes are a few adjustments to the current job and you'll feel fully refreshed and stoked to tackle that next shift. It may also, however, be time for The Trade. In this episode, we delve into the critical juncture many professionals, particularly physicians, find themselves in when their once-aspired career paths no longer bring fulfillment. We tackle:Whether to deepen commitments to your current role or brave the uncertainty of switching careersWhat it means to tolerate another yesterdayThe silent tax paid by grinding it outThe emotional and practical implications of making significant life changesHow a well-cultivated professional identity can become an albatrossA step-by-step guide on how to transition towards a more satisfying career
So, whether you're a physician on the brink, a professional in a pickle, or just someone who enjoys a good existential quandary with their morning coffee, tune in. Let's laugh in the face of the status quo and ponder if the grass is greener, or if it's just astroturf. Guest bio: Lon Stroschein is the purveyor of the Normal 40 podcast and author of The Trade. In past career interactions, he was an aide to a US senator and brokered billion-dollar deals in the aerospace industry. He now guides professionals in finding their second-half stories.  The Flameproof CourseThis is the hidden anti-burnout curriculum we all should have learned in training. Cohort 3 begins Sept 10, 2024. Get the deets   For full show notes of this episode and all sorts of other goodies, visit our podcast website We Discuss: Do I double down on what I'm doing right now or consider making a career change?Tolerating another yesterdayThe Pit: A Signal for ChangeRecognizing and Overcoming the Tax of DiscontentWorking yourself into The Box | We strive for years to get into it, but then it can feel like a trap. The two things that keep high-level professionals stuck in a career or positionWork identity takes a long time to build. It gives amazing opportunities but also takes some awayThe Trade: Step by StepThe mindset to thwart inertia #JFDSHas this job given me all it has to give and have I gotten all I have to get?A lifetime is a long time, but it doesn't take long to live it
Mentioned in this episode: Out On Time Course Finishing shifts with a stack of charts to complete gets old fast. It also contributes to burnout.
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The course begins on August 15, 2024. Out On Time Course 4 Free Resources specifically designed to address pain points in medical practice Scripting...

65. Bouncing Back After a Tough Case

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