Cherylee Black, Can NDEs Lead to Psychokinesis? |548|

Cherylee Black is a trained scientist, NDE experiencer and laboratory tested for her ability to move stuff with her mind.

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Alex Tsakiris: On this episode of Skeptiko a show about psychokinesis. And science. And a show about love. I have an interview coming up in a minute with Cheryl Lee black. You may remember that. I mentioned her name during my recent interview with Dr. Dean Raden. We were talking about the connection between near-death experiences and psychic abilities and whether there was such a connection.

And we were squabbling over the question of whether there really is right and wrong,

, and I brought up Cheryl Lee because, well, she’s a pretty extraordinary person in a number of ways first from this. Kind of supernatural stranger things kind of way. She can move things with their mind. And she’s one of, probably only a handful of people in the world . Who’ve ever been tested in a laboratory to see whether this stuff is real. And it’s real. She can really do it.

And the other thing that’s extraordinary about Shirley is she’s a survivor of. Multiple near-death experiences. .

And we’re going to talk about how all that might relate to. The bigger picture.

So, let me start with a clip from stranger things. Remember the Netflix series, the kids, and the little girl who was MK altered by these evil intelligence agencies in order to develop her psychic powers. Here’s a couple of really short clips of her doing kind of this psychic stuff. They’re really short.

[00:01:48] Alex Tsakiris: Okay. So that’s Netflix, that’s Hollywood and here’s the real deal. Here’s Shirley Black from the upcoming interview.

Cause your feelings? If they got real intense, could cause stranger things kind of stuff, lights going on and off, you know, people feeling it, that kind of stuff. Right. That’s what you’re experiencing.

[00:02:09] Cherylee Black: Yeah. That, you know, you could scare people with it. I mean, even just spinning the wheel into the pinwheel, I’ve had lots of people in my family.

Who’ve seen it and said, oh, that’s really creepy. And they, you know, like they don’t say, oh, that’s really interesting and cool. They look at it and go, that’s really creepy, stop it,

[00:02:27] Alex Tsakiris: Tell the story about when you were a kid in school

[00:02:30] Cherylee Black: I hate that story. And

because that was just an event that kind of had me labeled as a monster for years in school and really opened me up to so much abuse from teachers And so there was a day when I was sitting there drawing in my sketchbook, trying not to be overwhelmed.

And the teacher basically hit me in the face. Through my sketchbook across the room, I guess, I guess nobody had tooled this particular teacher that this was allowable behavior. And I was just so shocked. And the sketchbook basically picked itself up and launched itself at the teacher and hit her in the back.