Could the tax deadline get extended again? The White House is considering it! Also, demand for the Paycheck Protection Program among small businesses has suddenly cooled, in part due to worries about bad PR and potential issues with loan forgiveness. We've got a survey of accountants showing how firms are handling coronavirus. Furthermore, the SBA has halted new applications for EIDL loans and is capping the amount at a fraction of the former max, the IRS is asking people to send back stimulus checks mailed to dead people, and more.

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Joe Woodard joins Blake and David to examine how accountants and bookkeepers can increase the value of their services in the eyes of their clients. Joe introduces the Cobb value curve, illustrating how differentiation and relative value impact pricing. He emphasizes the importance of offering unique, high-value services like controllership and financial planning to stand out from commoditized offerings and command premium prices. Meet Our Guest, Joe Woodard LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quickbooksadvisor
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Delivering Nuclear Value in Accounting

Blake and David dive into the concerning trend of small CPA firms conducting shoddy audits of large companies and SPACs, raking in big fees while facing minimal consequences for deficient work. They also discuss the latest accounting app funding news, the power of AI for crafting persuasive arguments, and the American Institute of CPAs' puzzling resistance to changes in CPA licensure requirements and touch on the growing importance of client accounting services for public accounting firms.  Sponsors
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(03:58) - The truth behind Trump's Truth Social SPAC audit

(19:27) - AI startup Fieldguide secures $30 million in Series B funding

(22:43) - FundGuard secures $100 million in Series C funding round

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(30:03) - Scientists find that AI is more persuasive than humans at changing people's opinions

(38:15) - Formula 1 team using Excel to track car parts

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(42:08) - The AICPA warns about losing the 150-hour rule

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Fieldguide Raises $30 Million to Combat CPA Shortage With AI https://www.pymnts.com/news/investment-tracker/2024/fieldguide-raises-30-million-to-combat-cpa-shortage-with-ai/

 AI accounting startup raises $100M https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/ai-accounting-startup-fundguard-raises-100m-in-new-funds On the Conversational Persuasiveness of Large Language Models: A Randomized Controlled Trial (PDF)  https://arxiv.org/pdf/2403.14380.pdf?utm_source=www.therundown.ai&utm;_medium=newsletter&utm;_campaign=nvidia-s-new-ai-chip-competitor   The year CAS took over https://www.accountingtoday.com/opinion/the-year-cas-took-over-accounting 
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Get Rich Doing Bad Audits

Blake and David dig through the latest accounting news, including the effectiveness of pizza parties in boosting accounting firm morale, the record number of baby boomers reaching retirement age, and the impact on Social Security, as well as the massive amount of COVID-related fraud originating in South Florida. They also take a look at audit integrity issues, the long working hours in accounting, and some of the latest app headlines.  Sponsors
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(03:33) - Trump cheats at golf

(04:50) - Truth Social goes public

(07:41) - Grant Thornton sells majority stake to private equity firm

(12:28) - Almost 20% of all PPP fraud happened in South Florida

(17:59) - 49ers docked 5th round draft pick for accounting error

(20:08) - Sam Bankman Freed sentenced to 25 years in prison

(22:29) - David shares WSJ video on the future of social security

(31:16) - Tingo audit faulire update

(41:48) - Big 4 Transparency firm awards

(50:28) - Blake takes on a Reddit user's problem

(56:35) - Microsoft Teams combining business and personal offerings

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 Show Notes FTX Founder Sam Bankman-Fried Sentenced to 25 Years https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/sam-bankman-fried-sentencing-ftx-fraud-2d92fce9?st=d45lmr6uc8gg6wc 
 Trump ‘cheats like a mafia accountant’ at golf, writer who played with him says - pennlive.com https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/03/trump-cheats-like-a-mafia-accountant-at-golf-writer-who-played-with-him-says.html 
 Big 4 Transparency - Awards Season 

Pizza Parties Boost Morale

Blake and David meet with M&A; advisor Charles Bedard about valuations for accounting firms looking to sell. Bedard explains that subscription-based "modern" firms command much higher multiples than traditional hourly billing firms. Bedard provides specific valuation ranges based on revenue and EBITDA multiples and highlights the importance of recurring revenue. He also offers actionable tips for firm owners to increase their value in preparation for an exit. Meet Our Guest, Charles Bedard LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesbedard/
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Modern Pricing Models Drive Higher Valuations for Accounting Firms

Blake and David look at the potential impact of AI on the accounting profession and discuss how AI tools like ChatGPT can boost productivity by automating tasks, improving communication, and assisting with problem-solving. They also examine the implications of these efficiency gains on the billable hour, predicting that firms will need to adapt their pricing strategies as a result. Finally, they review the results of a recent Accounting Today survey, which reveals accountants' perceptions and concerns about AI in the profession.  Sponsors
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(02:24) - The inefficiency at Disney World compared to accountants and timesheets

(09:38) - JP Morgan AI tool cuts human work by 90%

(11:14) - BofA Cash Pro Forecasting

(18:29) - Blake checks in on live chat

(19:11) - Survey on how much people actually want to work

(27:17) - Kindness initiatives at firms

(28:26) - Is gratitude better than a pay raise?

(29:34) - New Accounting Today AI survey

(40:00) - Blake shares example of how he used AI in his personal life

(42:36) - Forbes article on ChatGPT prompts for leaders and managers

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 Show Notes JPMorgan Says Its AI Cashflow Tool Cut Human Work Almost 90% https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/jpmorgan-says-its-ai-cashflow-tool-cut-human-work-almost-90/470682   Accounting's reluctant AI revolution     https://www.accountingtoday.com/research-report/accountings-reluctant-ai-revolution   Firms find it’s cool to be kind     https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/issues/2024/mar/firms-find-its-cool-to-be-kind.html   Bank Of America CashPro Forecasting                https://business.bofa.com/en-us/content/cashpro-forecasting.html Americans Don’t Care as Much About Work. And It Isn’t Just Gen Z.
https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/americans-attitude-work-data-0c2e487c?st=zyx80zw1zyfu1jf 
 Gratitude is Better Than a Pay Raise for 55% of U.S. Workers, Survey Finds
https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2024/02/29/gratitude-is-better-than-a-pay-raise-for-55-of-u-s-workers/102148/ 
12 ChatGPT Prompts For Leaders And Managers In 2024 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelwells/2024/01/23/12-chatgpt-prompts-for-leaders-and-managers-in-2024/ 
 
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Demand for PPP Cools Due to Worries About Loan Forgiveness

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