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Derek Lambert, Mythicists, Atheists and True Believers |506|

06.22.2021 - By Alex TsakirisPlay

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Derek Lambert has interviewed some of the top religious scholars, and a bunch of atheists too.

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Audio Clip: [00:00:00] But I mean, just the fact that a person is faithful or a person goes to church doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re an asshole. There as [Inaudible 00:00:08] anybody else.

[00:00:13] Well, what you often say is that people who are religious aren’t smart, right? They’re dumb. They are stupid.

[00:00:19] No. No.

[00:00:20] And that’s three quarters of the United States still. It’s still 75% of the country if 25% is unaffiliated.

[00:00:25] But that’s not what I am saying.

[00:00:27] So what are you saying?

[00:00:27] Okay. The movie [Inaudible 00:00:28] starts with the question, “How can otherwise intelligent people believe in a talking snake?” But the question is, how can you just [Inaudible 00:00:34]? I think all of your intelligent and I guess you’re all religious.

[00:00:42] I don’t know how people can wall off a part of their mind and believe in something that’s an obviously [Crosstalk 00:00:48] age myth.

Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:50] That’s, of course, Bill Maher having a quasi-debate on atheism, with a panel that shall remain unnamed. Interesting to note that this dialogue has more or less been pushed to the side of the public forum. You don’t hear these kind of debates anymore. And I think part of the reason for that is, as we’ve covered on this show, when you have spirit cooking, occulted rituals, satanic rituals, connected to virtually everybody in Hollywood, and certainly many higher ranking political or royal family kind of connected people, well, it’s hard to keep a straight face about the evils of belief in the supernatural, or as I would say, extended consciousness realm. Then again, I think the debate still has merit. And that’s why I keep bringing it up. And that’s why I decided to connect with Derrick Lambert, of the very excellent myth vision podcast. Now I have to say that anyone who’s familiar with that podcast or with the mythicize position, that is kind of a scholarly apologetics approach to the idea that Jesus was a myth. Well, if you go down that path, then you would expect somebody like Derek to be more aligned with the Bill Maher Sunday school atheism kind of thing. And, well, he is. But as we’ll explore in this interview, I think that’s only half the equation. I mean, half the equation is Bill Maher’s right. [Inaudible 00:02:29] wall off our mind. But the other half of the equation is, well, let me play a clip. So I look at science and I say, the pre-existing social engineering position would be, I want you to be the same way that religion wants you to be afraid. It wants you to feel guilty, [and] it wants you to be controllable. That’s what religion wants out of you, because you’re just more susceptible to what they’re saying. Science wants the same thing. Science wants you to think that you are that biological robot. That there is no really no meaning in the universe, or if you want to believe Sam Harris, kind of, it’s a social construct. It’s whatever we make. Well consider the alternative, that you are somehow more, that your consciousness is somehow more and don’t go any further. Don’t start selling me God or anything like that.

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