100 tactical operators, and lasting for nearly 40 hours. It's one of Australia's most intense, and high profile siege operations. 
Brett Pennell is a former NSW Police Officer who spent almost 20 years in the force. As part of the Tactical Operations Unit, Brett was involved in high level raids, drug import intercepts and complex, high profile arrests. 
One of those jobs, the Tumut Siege, saw him make a split second decision, that still impacts him to this day. Understand this job and more with host Brent Sanders, as Brett takes us through, in intricate detail, the operationally concepts of the siege. 
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DETECTIVES: The Tumut Siege

Crime Insiders, a LiSTNR Original Production, takes you beyond true crime. In groundbreaking interviews, explore the world of policing, forensics, and more through the stories of the world’s most experienced and decorated experts.

True crime

It took 37 years, a failed murder trial, and an Australian mathematician to finally prosecute one of Scotland's most infamous serial killers. 
Professor David Balding is a pioneer in the field of mathematical computational genetics. Join host Kathryn Fox and hear how using things like probability, David can calculate the likelihood of DNA belonging to offenders, victims and crime scenes. 
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FORENSICS: The World's End Murders

The gangs of New Zealand are like nothing else, and as an undercover cop, you're forced to prove yourself, demonstrate you're a criminal and show you're capable of committing violent and often deadly crimes. 
That was the life of undercover operative Mark Van Lee Warden, who spent years as a covert officer deep inside the underworld of the New Zealand ganglands. He was required to tackle some of the country's most powerful underworld figures, including the infamous convicted murderer Ricki Goodin. Mark sat down with host Brent Sanders to explain how he became an undercover cop, and the impact it had on him in his professional and personal life. 
To hear more about Mark's time in the force, his book is available here. 
Mark's work post policing at Warden Consulting. 
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DETECTIVES: How Undercover Cops Infiltrate Gangs

Victims of stalking are systematically let down. So, how do the police handle reports of stalking? And what does the research tell us about effective intervention?
24-year-old Alice Ruggles was stalked and murdered by her ex-boyfriend. Alice did all the recommended things, including reporting his dangerous behaviour to the police multiple times. Unfortunately, Alice's story is not a one-off. It's a typical story illustrating the link between coercive control and stalking. 
Join host Kathryn Fox for part 2 of her discussion with forensic psychologist, Professor Troy McEwan from Swinburne University. 
This episode is part 2 of 2.
To learn more about Alice's story, and the work of the Alice Ruggles trust, head here.
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FORENSICS: The story of Alice Ruggles

The consequences of online abuse can be fatal, and in the early 2000s, even experts were naive to the dangers of the online world for us, and our kids.
Yasmin London is a former NSW Police Officer who took on a diverse set of roles in her decade in the force. She tackled the everyday stress of general duties, the diverse crimes of Rosebay in Sydney and the complex and unknown world of cyberbullying in the early days of the internet. 
Yasmin joined host Brent Sanders to talk through her career, and to unpack how her time in the force impacted her motivation for the work she does now. 
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DETECTIVES: Cyberbullying

Stalking is disturbingly common, yet often misunderstood by wider society. 
Professor Troy McEwan from the Swinburne University of Technology is a forensic psychologist specialising in understanding, assessing, and treating stalking behaviour. In this episode with Kathryn Fox, hear about the 5 different types of stalkers, and gain insights into their problematic behaviours. 
This episode is part 1 of 2. 
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DETECTIVES: The Tumut Siege

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