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Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Debating the Nature of Reality |574|

10.18.2022 - By Alex TsakirisPlay

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Bernardo Kastrup is director of Essentia Foundation and one of the world’s leading experts on metaphysical idealism.

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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: Um, this episode of skeptiko. A show about rules… When to break them:

[00:00:08] Clip: Still hanging out at the after party and, uh, with me, uh, , Tupac Shakur. All right. Believe in death row East believe in that. For real. You ever arrived with you, But if you believe in God, believe in death Row East.

[00:00:20] Alex Tsakiris: And when to follow them.

[00:00:23] Bernardo Kastrup: I accept the rules, you know, laboratory evidence, fine. That’s all I will look at. Reasoning fine. That’s all I will base my argument on. I will never appeal to my own personal subjective insight. And you go a long way. It’s enough to win after this transit. Has been accepted then we can review the rules of the game

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[00:00:44] Alex Tsakiris: that first clip was from 1996, Tupac Shakur, who I included because he was kind famous for breaking rules and famously said, play the game, but don’t let the game play. You. And the second was from our excellent, excellent guest, Dr. Bernardo Castro, who has been on the show before I highly respect is truly one of the leaders in paradigm change from biological robot, meaningless universe to wherever we go next. Now the rules game thing really has a lot of different meanings. As this interview goes on.

Stick round. And I think you’ll see what I

Welcome to Skeptical, where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers, and their critics. I’m your host Alex Caris, and today I’m so excited to welcome back my longtime friend lot of years here. More than most people would probably even realize, and one of the great thinkers of our time when it comes to, let me get this right, an academic level argument for the mental nature of reality or what I like to say, the argument against the idea that we’re all biologic routs in a meaningless universe.

I’m talking of course about Bernardo Castro. Fantastic. Bernardo, it’s great to have you here.

[00:02:10] Bernardo Kastrup: Welcome. Great to be here, Alex. Uh, we haven’t seen each other for too long. Last time we saw each other in person was. 2016, wasn’t it? It’s, it’s my, it boggles the mind how long it’s been already.

[00:02:23] Alex Tsakiris: It was up at, uh, You were with Dak Chopra?

Yes.

[00:02:28] Bernardo Kastrup: Up at Deepak. Yeah. And then you drove down, I think, uh,

[00:02:35] Alex Tsakiris: you have drove up. Same thing. I live right. I live very close to there. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Same thing. Yeah. But no, it’s awesome.

So, Bernardo, , let’s start with this. You have a new gig since we last chatted. You are now the executive director, Head Concho as Essentia Foundation. Tell us, tell us about that.

[00:02:57] Bernardo Kastrup: Wow. That’s something that, uh, had been looming in my life already for several years, but I had coat feet.

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