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Dr. Tom Cowan Insists We Show Him Covid-19 |472|

11.17.2020 - By Alex TsakirisPlay

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Dr. Tom Cowan’s has some wacky ideas, but in what world can Amazon ban a Simon & Schuster book?

Audio Clip: 0:02 ‘Hi, everybody, Hi Dr. Nic. Dr Nic this malpractice committee has received a few complaints against you.’

Alex Tsakiris: 0:12 – That’s of course the Simpsons and today’s show does dive into what some people see as medical quackery and what other people see as cutting edge conspiracy science. Here’s a clip:

Published in Nature three years ago, again in 2016. In 2016 he was on this. He can give you all the stats on the camels and how many of the camels had the virus and how many camels had the, the antibodies and then, you know, so he’s been doing that work for 10 years. So he just –

Dr. Tom Cowan: 0:49 – Show me the picture.

Alex Tsakiris: 0:46 – Show you the picture. Here’s the-

Dr. Tom Cowan: 0:49 – Your name is Alex right? Alex, right now show me the picture of the isolated virus.

Alex Tsakiris: 0:55 – Show, (Laughs)-

Dr. Tom Cowan: 0:58 – Show it to me.

Alex Tsakiris: 0:59 – Flat earth-

Dr. Tom Cowan: 1:00 – You said you believe this guy? Show me the picture.

Alex Tsakiris: 1:02 – Flat earth science. That’s what the flat earth guys do. They say, Hey, I can’t see the rest. Show me, show me.

 

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Alex Tsakiris: 1:13

Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. Today we welcome Dr. Tom Cowan to Skeptiko. Tom is the author of, showing it here on the screen, a Simon and Schuster book, mind you ,The Contagion Myth. Why viruses including Coronavirus are not the cause of disease and this is a book by the way, you know, if you look down in the corner here, there’s a little click button for Barnes and Noble and Amazon and if you click Amazon, you’ll see that a page is not found. This is a book that has been banned on Amazon, imagine that. I think that’s, that might be the most interesting part of this story. So the central, the central premise of Tom’s book, The Contagion Myth, is that Coronavirus doesn’t exist. Which, I have to say when I first heard it during my interview with David Ike who is someone who I really respect but I know David doesn’t always dig into the science or get the science right but when I first heard it, it had a real Flat Earth kind of ring to it like, you know, like a reverse conspiracy, over the top conspiracy claim. So when one of your representatives Dr. Cowan pinged me and said, Hey, would you like to have a chat with this guy? I jumped at the opportunity because I think this is really an interesting topic to talk about so thanks for joining me.

Dr. Tom Cowan: 2:55

Thank you, it’s actually just a few corrections it’s Cowan not Cohen.

Alex Tsakiris: 3:01

Did i say C- I keep saying that. Yeah, It’s Cowan I’m sorry. I’m sorry, It’s Cowan, I’m sorry.

Dr. Tom Cowan: 3:06

But you can call me Tom if that will make it easier.

Alex Tsakiris: 3:09

I will Tom.

Dr. Tom Cowan: 3:09

I think just as a note, it was not actually published by Simon and Schuster, it was published by a company called Skyhorse and I think Simon and Schuster is technically ...

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