Eve Lorgen, Anomalous Trauma, MILAB |593|

Eve Lorgen… anomalous trauma… complex trauma… anomalous love relationships… MILAB.

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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: , On this episode of Skeptiko.

A show about what happens when you really ask for answers.

[00:00:08] Clip: do something. Come on, prove it. Show me something real. I need it now. Not later now.

At a show about how you sometimes get those answers in places you wouldn’t normally expect.

[00:00:30] Eve Lorgen: cuz there’s, there’s people now who are claiming that it’s a, it’s a false thing and don’t go in the white light and you’re gonna get trapped

[00:00:36] Alex Tsakiris: The interesting thing to me is that I have no doubt that the basic premise of what you’re saying is true is that there is some non-human intelligence with advanced technology that can implement means of deception in a way that directly interferes with or has the appearance of interfering with what people would understand to be a near-death experience or a reincarnation experience.

[00:01:02] Alex Tsakiris: They’re faking it. I, I think they’re faking it. That is my ultimate conclusion. But that is an important shift that no one in the n d E community is really looking at.

[00:01:12] Eve Lorgen: Wow. I don’t know. All I know is what I experienced is a realization that. It went beyond my, uh, normal consciousness of what’s in the personality of this identity or any other lifetime.

[00:01:24] Eve Lorgen: It’s, it’s in eternal now being this that is so deep that it’s beyond question of, it’s, it’s a dreaming. That’s how, that’s how I understand it. But,

[00:01:35] Alex Tsakiris: but this is a, this is a dreaming this here now reality is the dreaming. Yeah. Yeah. Probably co-created

[00:01:42] Eve Lorgen: dreaming, you know, but hey, I’m not, I don’t consider myself enlightened.

[00:01:46] Eve Lorgen: I still have a, a long way to go.

[00:01:49] Alex Tsakiris: That is the closest to making sense to me. It’s a co-created dreaming reality for the purpose of our own personal growth of our soul in some way. I mean, that’s the only way I can wrap my arms around it in a way that both feels supported by a total opening to the data and, uh, kind of my personal intuitive sense of it.

The first clip was from the movie, the gray it’s a great scene. And the second was from today’s guest. Eve Lorgan who I was reluctant to in this interview. You’ll see that. I keep trying to pull back, pull back because I didn’t want to hit you with the whole MyLab abduction stuff, underground basis stuff, because somebody people think it’s crazy.

I would, of course suggest that the natural flow of following the data here is just kind of plainly leads in that directions. I mean, we live in a post disclosure world where these things flying around are acknowledged. And we can only assume that there is some form. Of non-human intelligence that is piloting those crafts. That’s the most parsimonious conclusion.

The part that throws people is .

, that evidence dovetails directly with the idea that, that non-human intelligence in some form Is interfering with interacting with people here on our planet, . So given that all that is, is not that hard for people to get to. It’s kind of surprising that people really pull up on the MyLab thing, because if you look at it from its simplest,