Dr. Leanne Williams is determined to spare people the suffering she’s endured.  Her partner of many years died by suicide after fighting a depression that resisted all treatment.  She has devoted her life as a scientist at Stanford to applying the principles and tactics of precision medicine to depression, which she has categorized into sub-types (much as was done with cancer decades ago).  Joining me in this conversation are Dr BJ Miller, a friend and previous guest who works as a palliative care doc and lost his sister to suicide, as well as Emmy-winning comedian W. Kamau Bell, also a friend and previous guest, who brings his usual good will and insight to the conversation.

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Going Deep on Finding Much Better Treatments for Depression

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Quick afternoon nap?  Gummies before bed?  Hitting snooze?  Here’s a thorough look at how to get our sleep right with one of the world’s most informed sleep experts: Dr. Matthew Walker.  Why?  Sleep is our super power.  Put less positively, poor sleep maps terribly closely to poor mental health.  Joining me for the conversation are previous guests and friends of the show cognitive scientist and podcaster Maya Shankar, and comedian/producer W Kamau Bell.

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Going Deep on Sleep and Well Being with Dr. Matt Walker, W. Kamau Bell and Maya Shankar

Today is the last of our special 5-part series about moms in honor of Every Mother Counts.  Christy and I recently spent an unforgettable Saturday afternoon talking to the singular force of nature that is Spike Lee about his mother, Jackie, who died when Spike was a sophomore at Morehouse College.  Spike has 134 directing credits over four+ decades, in each case imploring us to Wake Up.   Here’s a chance to understand something about the development of this legendary voice.  Please share.

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Spike Lee and Christy Turlington Burns Talk Moms

Today is #4 in a special 5-part series about moms in honor of Every Mother Counts. Today we talk to the iconic Cindy Crawford, an old friend of Christy’s (you may have seen them together in the Apple TV docu-series The Super Models).  Cindy is a Midwestern girl, a high school valedictorian who started at Northwestern on an academic scholarship to study chemical engineering before her career took her around the world.  She is also the daughter of Jenny, a young bride who had four children and lost one to childhood leukemia.  This is a candid and loving conversation about the realities of family life.  Please share.

This series hopes to raise $100,000 to support safe and respectful pregnancy, delivery and postpartum care in 9 countries through Every Mother Counts, founded in 2010 and led every day since by Christy Turlington Burns.  Please join us with a donation here.  We know that maternal health is a human right; let’s help make it ubiquitous.

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Cindy Crawford and Christy Turlington Burns Talking Moms

Today is #3 in a special 5-part series about moms in honor of Every Mother Counts.  Bono lost his mother Iris when he was 14 years old.  She had an aneurysm at her father’s funeral and as he says, he’s been singing to her ever since.  This is a very special conversation, possibly my favorite interview of all time, made more lovely and intimate by the friendship between Bono and Christy going back many years now.

This series hopes to raise $100,000 to support safe and respectful pregnancy, delivery and postpartum care in 9 countries through Every Mother Counts, founded in 2010 and led every day since by Christy Turlington Burns.  Please join us with a donation here.  Maternal health is a human right and as Bono says, raising kids takes a village and a mother is a village.

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Going Deep on Finding Much Better Treatments for Depression

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