As former President Donald Trump continues to fend off attacks from former cabinet members, former Governor of Texas and Secretary of Energy under President Donald Trump Rick Perry weighs in on the work he has been doing on energy and sports gambling since leaving his post as Secretary. Plus, Governor Perry tells stories from his time in the Trump Administration, as well as lessons learned from a Bible study group organized by cabinet members.

Later, Ben reflects on the interview and shares his analysis.

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