Isabel Wilkerson reframes race and racism in her book Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents. Here she talks about what inspired the book and about the craft behind her complex, big narratives. Spoiler: it doesn’t involve outlines. Plus, Tressie and Roxane on why you need to read more than one book about racism. 
 Mentions:Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents
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Hear to Slay: Chopped & Screwed (with Isabel Wilkerson)

The Roxane Gay Agenda is the *bad feminist* podcast of your dreams. It’s writer Roxane Gay in conversation with guests who have something necessary to say about the issues that matter most to her–and hopefully to you as well. On the Agenda: feminism, race, writing, art, pop culture, food, and, of course, politics. If you enjoy hearing from people–women, mostly; Black women, usually–who bring unique perspectives to a world in complete and utter chaos, put this show on your own agenda.

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Sherrilyn Ifill still believes in the future. The famed civil rights attorney reflects on her time with the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (LCD) fighting against systemic racism in the courts. And she also has thoughts about the legitimacy crisis of the Supreme Court.
 
Credits: Curtis Fox is the producer. Our researcher is Yessenia Moreno. Production help from Kaitlyn Adams and Meg Pillow. Theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

And Then Some (w/ Sherrilyn Ifill)

June Diane Raphael on the psychological challenge of being a woman on TV and film sets, and why she’s leery of being “the good girl.” The comedian/actor/screenwriter/podcaster also talks about everything from menstrual moods to career ambitions. Plus, Roxane recounts the plot of one of her favorite bad movies.
 
Mentions:

“Oh God, A Show About Abortion” https://www.ohgodshow.com/
“Battleship” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440129/
“How Did This Get Made” podcast https://www.earwolf.com/show/how-did-this-get-made/
” The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael" https://www.earwolf.com/show/the-deep-dive-with-jessica-st-clair-and-june-diane-raphael/

 
Credits: Curtis Fox is the producer. Our researcher is Yessenia Moreno. Production help from Kaitlyn Adams and Meg Pillow. Theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Gas Leak (w/ June Diane Raphael)

Designer and podcaster Debbie Millman on creativity, vanity projects, and how to inspire people to change. Also, she is Roxane’s wife, and Roxane tells us how they met and fell in love.
Mentions:

Marcy Dermansky’s novel “Hurricane Girl” http://www.marcydermansky.com/hurricane-girl-book
C.J.Hauser’s book of essays “The Crane Wife” https://cjhauser.com/
“The Crane Wife” essay in Paris Review https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/07/16/the-crane-wife/
“Why Design Matters: Conversations with the World’s Most Creative People” https://www.whydesignmatters.online/
Design Matters Podcast

 
Credits: Curtis Fox is the producer. Our researcher is Yessenia Moreno. Production help from Kaitlyn Adams and Meg Pillow. Theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Romancing the Podcast (w/ Debbie Millman)

Imani Barbarin uses humor and truth to bring attention to the increasingly dire plight of disabled people in America. The pandemic has revealed a broken system that keeps the disabled in poverty. She talks about how she personally deals with the injustice, and what might be done to improve things. Also, what makes a joke a good joke for the disabled?
 
Mentions:
●     Imani Barbarin’s Tik Tok feed: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/imani-barbarin?lang=en
Credits: Curtis Fox is the producer. Our researcher is Yessenia Moreno. Production help from Kaitlyn Adams and Meg Pillow. Theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tap Dancing on Thin Ice (w/ Imani Barbarin)

Actor, comedian and memorist Cameron Esposito is practicing vulnerability. Here she talks to Roxane about their gender-fluidity, about why performing feels normal for them, and about why it’s important not to be funny all the time.
 
Mentions:
●     Take My Wife on Starz https://www.starz.com/us/en/series/38334/episodes?season=1
●     Save Yourself https://www.esowonbookstore.com/book/9781538701362
●     A Million Little Things https://abc.com/shows/a-million-little-things
●     Rape Jokes https://www.cameronesposito.com/rape-jokes/
●     We Bare Bears: The Movie https://www.amazon.com/We-Bare-Bears-Eric-Edelstein/dp/B089DNJCFC
●     QUEERY https://www.cameronesposito.com/category/podcasts/
 
Credits: Curtis Fox is the producer. Our researcher is Yessenia Moreno. Production help from Kaitlyn Adams and Meg Pillow. Theme music by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hear to Slay: Chopped & Screwed (with Isabel Wilkerson)

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