Heroes and Villains Further Discussion – 4X12 – 262

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We will be discussing the Once Upon a Time episode, Heroes and Villains further and including listener feedback.

Episode Number: 262

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/262

We will play part 2 of the VM message from Abby Ross who played Young Emma

News:

Ernie Hudson has been cast as King Triton

Joanna Garcia Swisher will return as Ariel per http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/once-upon-a-time-joanna-garcia-swisher-ariel-return-1201380663/

Eion Bailey will return as August W. Booth/Pinocchio per http://tvline.com/2014/12/18/once-upon-a-time-season-4-eion-bailey-returns-august-spoilers/

Email points:

From Aleana

Yay! a potrait of Ingrid, Gerta and Helga is being put up in Arendelle Castle.

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From Chris Tipton

Another episode full of epic. Unlike alot of people i really loved this half season and this was a great end. My top 5

5) Frozen gang returns to Arandelle

This was a sad moment for me. Elizabeth Lail as Anna is one of my all time favorite characters on this show and she will be sorely missed. Im so happy she had a hand in saving everyone. Anna looked absolutely glorious in her wedding gown, and i loved our one last frozen reference… CHOCOLATE!!

4) The Queens of Darkness

Can Cruella turn herself into a dalmatian on command? Maybe this is her superpower. I love Maleficents new look. She finally looks legit, i thought she looked dumb in season one. Cruella also is spot on. She already is terrifying. Those eyebrows haha. I dont care for Ursula so far but hopefully she’ll grow on me. My pet theory is Lilly is Cruella De Vil because Lilith is a demon in many stories and De vil.. Devil so theres that. One question, Rumple needs to make 2 more stops? Maleficent is a wraith beneath the clock tower… How does he think he can find her?

3)Regina and Robin/Marian

Im so proud of Regina making the right decision. It was so heart breaking at the town line, second most heart wrenching part of the show. Alot of people predicted this and it came to fruition. I felt how we got there was kind of silly and contrived but alas it is once upon a time. Also, how in the blue heck is Robin anymore qualified for dealing with the regular world than Marian? I still am pretty sure we haven’t seen the last of Robin so there’s hope yet for Regina #RIPOUTLAWQUEEN

2) The Sorcerer is the author!! This was my theory all season and i suppose i was correct it seems. Very cool seeing that room. Did Henry just go around pulling on lights till he found a secret room?

Henry, please dont call Belle Grandma ever again!! Too much awkward.

1)Rumples Story / End of Rumbelle

Another Magical plot device, but it was nice to get another Camelot reference, and it showed Belle Rumples true self so i suppose it was useful! So epic finding out the house was the sorcerer’s, which i also had predicted all along. Cool to see the walking broom again and hear the amazing sorcerer’s apprentice theme. Really Hook needs to get a bruise checked? Real subtle Rumple!! The scene in the clock tower turned observatory was really cool. Awesome effects on the stars. So glad Rumple didn’t get to kill Hook. So now for Rumple and Belle at the town line.