53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of [Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/) and the man behind popular design conferences like [UX London](https://2019.uxlondon.com/) and [Leading Design](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork). Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesnā€™t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on:

How Andy is pathological! Itā€™s true! šŸ‘»

What are conferences for? Spoiler: itā€™s not education! šŸ¤”

How to connect with people at conferences? šŸ¤ššŸ»

How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? šŸ¤Æ

Managing cashflow when running an agency. šŸ¤‘

How to agency? šŸ§

Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. šŸ˜Œ

**Links:**

[Andy Budd on Twitter](https://twitter.com/andybudd)

[andybudd.com](http://andybudd.com/)

[Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/)

[UX London 2019](https://2019.uxlondon.com/)

[Leading Design Conf 2019](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork)

[PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-11-why-most-design-conferences-suck-f6966b5b9951)

[PBC #44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-44-growing-ustwo-the-future-of-creative-business-with-jules-ehrhardt-f862a17365f8)

[PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-49-mona-patel-on-starting-and-growing-a-multi-million-dollar-design-agency-b7b78b26250a)

[Ex Machina](http://exmachina-movie.com/)

[Artificial Intelligence: The Norwegian Retreat](https://clearleft.com/posts/artificial-intelligence-the-retreat-in-western-norway)

[SXSW](https://www.sxsw.com/)

[**BOOK:** The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Donā€™t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber](https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541398953&sr=8-1&keywords=the+emyth+revisited)

[**BOOK:** Capital: A Novel](https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Novel-John-Lanchester/dp/0393345092)

[Smashing Conf](https://smashingconf.com/)

[**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/)

[**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/)

[Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the **AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass**:](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) šŸ’°

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Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial