Bill O'Brien toppled over more coaching dominoes that Ari and Chris happily sort through. Is Chip Kelly a better fit at offensive coordinator for Ohio State than Bill O'Brien (2:00)? Why did Kelly elect to leave a P2 head coaching job for a P2 coordinator position? What does new Bruins HC DeShaun Foster bring to UCLA (15:45)? Why did O'Brien leave for the Boston College job (19:30)? Ex-Washington, and Alabama for a moment, OC Ryan Grubb heads back to the West Coast to be the Seahawks' OC. Where does that leave Kalen DeBoer and the Tide (24:30)? Speaking of Washington, Jedd Fisch, the Huskies' new HC, joins Ari to set the record straight on his exit from Arizona (32:00). Coach Fisch also shares his vision for UW's football program under his leadership. Lastly, are we going to see more non-SEC/Big Ten head coaches leave for coordinator roles in the P2 (1:03:00)?

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Is Chip Kelly a better fit for OSU? | Alabama OC search | Jedd Fisch opens up about Arizona exit, Washington's future

Welcome to Until Saturday, The Athletic's NEW college football podcast. This is your home for everything college football. Join Ari Wasserman, David Ubben, Nicole Auerbach, Max Olson, Chris Vannini, Sam Khan Jr., and The Athletic's CFB staff as they break down the game we all love.

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Ari, Chris and Max share their instant reactions to the first EA Sports NCAA 25 trailer! Chris also shares what features fans can expect in the game. You may think you know how the transfer portal and NIL works, but Manny Navarro, Chris Vannini, and Ari Wasserman tells you how it REALLY works. Manny, Chris, and several other The Athletic reporters interviewed players, coaches, and agents about how two of the most prevelant yet perplexing topics in college sports. How do programs recruit players? Where do agents fit into all of this,are players only after a bag, and which programs spend the most? WE HAVE A RELEASE DATE FOR NCAA 25. An array of news came out of Florida at the ACC Spring Meetings. Dabo dropped another transfer portal comment, Florida St. vs ACC still rages on, even with both parties at the same hotel, and does the conference have a perception problem?

Read about how the transfer portal works:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5484900/2024/05/13/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-deals/

Read about how NIL agents fit into the picture:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5490748/2024/05/15/college-football-nil-agents-transfer-portal/

Read Nicole Auerbach's stories from ACC Spring Meetings:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5494186/2024/05/14/acc-college-football-playoff-perception/

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Rundown:
- EA Sports NCAA 25 trailer + features (:30)
- How does NIL/portal work? What we learned (15:00)
- So...tampering (24:00)
- Are players only after a paycheck? (28:30)
- Transactional programs (29:45)
- How do deals get done? (41:00)
- Biggest spenders (48:30)
- NCAA 25 release date (1:00:30)
- ACC Spring Meetings: Dabo, league perception, FSU + House vs NCAA deadline (1:08:00)

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EA Sports NCAA 25 features + trailer reveal! How NIL and the portal REALLY work: Players, coaches & agents weigh in

One of Until Saturday's most dedicated listeners, Sad Husker Nate, did it again. He left another gem of a question for Ari Wasserman, Sam Khan Jr., and Mitch Light on the Until Saturday Phone Line (316-462-9852): Who's on our Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains? The trio go meta with some of their choices (like the Pac-12's cognoscenti that destroyed the conference), but weren't bashful about naming some names (like Michigan's Jim Harbaugh). Baylor is gambling on Dave Aranda after consecutive losing seasons. Why did AD Mack Rhodes decide to retain Aranda? Sam takes us inside his excellent story before the group delves into a bigger picture conversation: What's a fair timeline for a coach? Lastly, EA Sports NCAA 25 dropped a bombshell on us last Friday.

Read Sam's Dave Aranda story: https://theathletic.com/5467548/2024/05/06/dave-aranda-baylor-football/

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Rundown:
- Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains via Sad Husker Nate (4:00)
- Honorable mention villains (38:00)
- Baylor's big bet on Dave Aranda + fair timelines (44:45)
- NCAA 25 cover athletes (1:00:00)

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Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains + Baylor's bet on Dave Aranda & coaching timelines

We asked you, Until Saturday and college football fans alike, to weigh in on Ari Wasserman's Post-Spring Top-25 rankings. Ari takes fan feedback on his list as well as input from Chris Vannini, who joins him on today's show. Why was Utah ranked so low? Was a Group of 5 team considered, and a fan thinks Ari's story was DISGUSTINGLY...rational? Plus, Brian Kelly, Spencer Danielson, and more coaches spoke openly about certain aspects of their school's NIL approach. Some of what was said wasn't well received, but are outspoken parties simply overreacting? Unlimited coaches, Iowa's new QB, the ACC's dark horse and more!

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Rundown:
- NIL consternation + Boise St. HC Spencer Danielson on Freshman/NIL comments (2:00)
- Post-Spring Top-25 postmortem + Chris weighs in (13:30)
- Changes + G5 regrets and contenders (21:15)
- Until Saturday phone line opens: Ari, why do you hate Carson Beck? (26:45)
- How are early-season marquee matchups contextualized? (31:30)
- Someone liked Ari's rankings? (38:00)
- Text via Jason from Austin: Why is Utah ranked so low? (41:00)
- Text via David G San Antonio.: Post-spring hypothetical 12-team playoff (44:00)
- Text via Ben from Louisville: Kudos for ranking the Cardinals (51:00)
- Until Saturday newsletter QOTD: Which team is the ACC dark horse? (53:00)
- Iowa's new QB + unlimited coaches (56:00)

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Where was Ari wrong (and right) in his Post-Spring Top 25? + Brian Kelly and NIL overreaction

Ari Wasserman is joined by Max Olson and Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports sports writer extraordinaire and 1/3 of the 'College Football Enquirer' podcast, to discuss his post-spring top-25 rankings. Which teams are ranked too high, too low, not at all? We want to hear your thoughts about Ari's rankings, so call the Until Saturday phone line and leave a voicemail (or text): 316-462-9852. Plus, Dan attempts to explain new emerging details about the NCAA's compensation model.

Rundown:
- Compensation model new info (2:00)
- Post-spring Top-25 rankings: Nos. 1-3 (12:30)
- Nos. 4-7 (27:00)
- Nos. 8-10 (38:00)
- Nos. 11-13 (45:00)
- Nos. 14 & 15 (53:00)
- Nos. 16-18 (1:00:00)
- Nos. 19-22 (1:09:00)
- Nos. 23-25 + Dumping USC (1:14:30)

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Post-Spring Top-25 Rankings Reveal + Breakdown with Dan Wetzel

A vortex of social media activity ensued after Tuesday's podcast with Max Olson (which can be found in your feed). Multiple ex-Colorado players spoke with Max about their experience being cut from the program when Deion Sanders took over, and those thoughts were shared on this show. Since then, Deion and Shedeur Sanders have responded to some of those former players who aired their thoughts on social media. Ari Wasserman and Sam Khan Jr. weigh in on what has been said by Prime and others. But, before then, Ari and Sam explain why House vs. NCAA is important to you as a CFB fan. They also acquaint you with draft-eligible players that you need to know.

Rundown:
- House vs NCAA & how it could completely change CFB (2:00)
- Top offensive draft-eligible players (10:00)
- Top defensive draft-eligible players (24:00)
- Who's going to pop-off this season? (34:00)
- Tin Hat Ari (46:00)
- "Bush League" Deion Sanders (48:15)

Read Max's Colorado story:
https://theathletic.com/5449961/2024/04/29/deion-sanders-colorado-transfer-portal-2023/

Read Dane's 2025 mock draft:
https://theathletic.com/5458526/2024/04/30/nfl-mock-draft-2025-prediction-shedeur-sanders-will-johnson/

Read Justin's House vs. NCAA explainer:
https://theathletic.com/5174023/2024/01/03/ncaa-proposal-subdivision-lawsuits/

Read Ari's story about Sam Salz:
https://theathletic.com/5457913/2024/05/02/sam-salz-texas-am-football-shabbat/

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Is Chip Kelly a better fit for OSU? | Alabama OC search | Jedd Fisch opens up about Arizona exit, Washington's future

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