Two people are dead after an attempted robbery goes wrong. 37-year-old Joshua Ungersman makes a delivery to what is found to be an abandoned house where he meets 17-year-old Jaelynn Billups and her 19-year-old boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter.

Vanmeter is shot by Ungersman, who has a concealed carry permit, defending himself. The delivery driver reportedly crossed the street and asked witnesses to call police. At that point, Billups allegedly shot him at point-blank range.

Joining Nancy Grace today:Ashley Willcott - Judge and trial attorney, Anchor on Court TV, www.ashleywillcott.com Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Beverly Hills, ww.drbethanymarshall.comSheryl McCollum - Forensics Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute FounderJoe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author,"Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime NetworkAlexis Terezchuck - Crime Online Investigative Reporter

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Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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FBI agent kidnapped by drug smugglers. Fake cop "equipped to deceive." 
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Crime Alert 04.23.24

A police affidavit says Tiffany Adams allegedly gave statements indicating she was responsible for the deaths of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley. 
Investigators now say they believe Butler and Jillian Kelley were lured to the location, arriving around  9:40 a.m. Besides the pools of blood, officers found Butler’s glasses on the ground near a broken hammer.  Police say they believe the women were forced into another vehicle.
Much information has been released in the probable cause affidavit, but not the women's cause of death. The bodies were found in a cattle pasture, leased by Tad Bert Cullum, the boyfriend of grandmother Tiffany Adams. 
The location was narrowed down by cellphone data from three burner phones purchased by Adams. The phones first pinged at the location of Butler's abandoned car, the data then led police to the pasture property. Obvious signs of digging were discovered. A hole had been dug and filled back in. Inside the hole were the bodies of the missing women.
The motive, according to investigators, is custody of Butler’s two children: a custody battle has gone on for more than five years. Father Wrangler Rickman, Tiffany Adam’s son, had custody of the children, but Rickman was confirmed to be in a rehabilitation facility in Oklahoma City. 
 Veronica Butler’s custody arrangement allowed her supervised visitation with her children every Saturday. And reportedly, according to Butler’s attorney, she was likely to be granted unsupervised visitation during an upcoming hearing.
The affidavit states that  “Adams vehemently opposed this and went to great lengths to plan and purchase items used in Butler and Kelley’s murders,” It continues... “Adams, Cullum, Cole and Cora were willing to kidnap and murder two victims to limit visitation for Butler.”
Court documents allege that Adams and the other suspects tried to killer Butler once before in February.  Adams, her boyfriend, and the other couple drove to Butler’s home near Hugoton, Kansas, intending to kill her. A witness told investigators that the planned was to throw an anvil through Butler’s windshield while she was driving. They reasoned that it would look like an accident, but Butler did not leave her home.
As state investigators pulled information from Adams’ phone, it showed web searches for “taser pain level, gun shops, prepaid cellular phones, and how to get someone out of their house."  That’s also according to the probable cause documents. 
Adams reportedly purchased five stun guns before the women’s disappearances, according to the documents. She bought three prepaid, unregistered burner phones from a Walmart near her.  All the prepaid burners stopped transmitting the mornings the women went missing.
Joining Nancy Grace Today: 

Kelly Hyman- Trial & Civil Attorney, TV Legal Analyst, Podcast Host: "Once Upon a Crime In Hollywood", Twitter: @kellyhyman1, TikTok: @kelly.hyman, Instagram: @Kelly_Hyman1 
Sheryl McCollum  – Forensics Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder; Host of Podcast: “Zone 7;” X: @149Zone7
Irv Brandt – Senior Inspector, US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch; Chief Inspector, DOJ Office of International Affairs, US Embassy Kingston, Jamaica; Author: “SOLO SHOT: CURSE OF THE BLUE STONE” – AVAILABLE ON AMAZON IN JANUARY; ALSO “FLYING SOLO: Top of the World;” Twitter: @JackSoloAuthor
Dr. Kendall Crowns – Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth) and Lecturer: University of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School
Lauren Conlin – Investigative Journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast, and also Host of “Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon; X- @Conlin_Lauren/ Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin/YouTube- @LaurenConlin4
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KILLER-GRANNY-SUSPECT BLOODY AMBUSH 2 KANSAS MOMS;  TASERS, BURNERS, BULLDOZER

Missing Houston girl rescued from possible trafficking scheme. This suspect is tired of the 'paw-parazzi.' 
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Crime Alert 04.22.24

For years she was labeled “Bones 20” the unidentified victim of the Green River Killer.
Now, thanks to police work and Othram Labs, the victim has been named as Tammy Liles. She was from Everett, Washington, and vanished in the summer of 1983. She was only 16 years old when she became a victim of serial killer Gary Ridgeway.
On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will take you behind the headlines and into the lab that helped give a name to a young lady who spent decades being called “Bones 20."
Transcript Highlights  
00:0:16 Introduction – The Green River Killer last victim identified 
00:02:28 Talk about age reference  
00:06:32 Discussion of high-profile murders 
00:10:48 Talk about the Green River Killer 16-year-old victim 
00:15:56 Discussion of identifying remains 
00:20:54 Discussion of the Green River Killer evidence 
00:25:58 Talk about starting with incomplete skeleton 
00:29:41 Discussion of Genetic Genealogy 
00:34:51 Talking about Othram labs 
00:37:39 Conclusion; might be the most noble of pursuits 
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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: IDENTIFIED - Green River Killer’s Final Victim

Christina Harris is found dead by a neighbor.
Harris’ cause of death was initially ruled accidental by the medical examiner's office after a blood sample tested positive for opiates, but her family is adamant Christina did not use drugs. The family even insisted officers test her frozen breast milk to prove it.
Harris was still breastfeeding an infant. Police ultimately arrest husband Jason Harris for poisoning his wife's cereal. Harris has now lost his appeal bid.
Joining Nancy Grace today:

Matthew Mangino – Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County); Author: “The Executioner’s Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States”
Dr. Shari Schwartz – Forensic Psychologist (Specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy); Author: “Criminal Behavior” and “Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology;” Twitter: @TrialDoc”
Justin Boardman – Retired Detective, West Valley City Police Department Special Victim’s Unit, Boardman Training & Consulting
Dr. Michelle DuPre – Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff’s Department, Author: “Homicide Investigation Field Guide” & “Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide;” Forensic Consultant
Karen Drew – TV News Anchor/Investigative Reporter, WDIV TV, NBC Detroit; Instagram/Twitter: @KarenDrewTV

 
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