04.15.2021 - By Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman
Send us a Text Message.Carey and David are joined by Glenn Packiam (Lead Pastor, New Life Church Downtown, Colorado Springs, CO) and Andrew Hébert (Lead Pastor, Paramount Baptist Church in Amarillo, TX) to talk about the challenges of pastoral health, a reframed perspective on attendance numbers and the future opportunities of hybrid church ministry.