PMH Atwater, NDE Reseacher |586|

PMH Atwater… near-death experiencer… near-death experience researcher… NDE after effects… NDEs in children.

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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: on, this episode of Skeptiko,

[00:00:04] Alex Tsakiris: you gotta deliver the goods.

[00:00:06] Alex Tsakiris: So the goods right now that I’m holding you accountable to is those IQ score. And you say you got ’em, and if you got ’em, you gotta show ’em. ,

[00:00:14] PMH Atwater: you keep your re research for 10 years and after 10 years you can throw away those.

[00:00:20] PMH Atwater: So I’ve thrown a, a number of ’em away, of course, cuz I, I’ve been doing this for, for 44 years. I’ve, I’ve only got O one box left now. , so that there’s just simply no way I can go back. .

[00:00:33] Alex Tsakiris: , it just doesn’t ring true. It, I’ll just straight up, it doesn’t ring true to me.

[00:00:37] Alex Tsakiris: Welcome to Skeptiko, where we explore controversial science and spirituality. Today we welcome near Death experience, researcher and author PMH Atwater. Her latest book is The Forever Angels Near Death, experiences in Childhood and Their Lifelong Impact.

[00:00:58] Alex Tsakiris: A book that done other. Then Bruce Grayson calls unprecedented Kenneth ring calls. Truly groundbreaking and pin Von Lamel says is a very important, valuable contribution now. If you know anything about near-death experience science, that is the real study of the phenomenon. You know that all of the folks I just mentioned are very prominent researchers with distinguished credentials, so their endorsement of this book I think is quite significant.

[00:01:30] Alex Tsakiris: P M H welcome, it’s great to have you here.

[00:01:33] PMH Atwater: It’s good to be here.

[00:01:35] Alex Tsakiris: Very good. So pmh, you’re known as a real trailblazer innovator, within the near death experience community, particularly because you have always maintained this focus on. NDE After Effects. And that’s been your thing. And you’ve brought forth some really important insights and changed the direction of this research.

[00:01:59] Alex Tsakiris: In this latest book, the Forever Angels you took it a, in a slightly different term, you looked at lifelong after effects among 120 people who had experienced an N D E very early in life. Why did you, uh, choose that particular.

[00:02:17] PMH Atwater: Well, bear in mind this is 397 people, so I’m looking at my previous research of those that were maybe, you know, kids up to maybe twenties and thirties, and then I’m now extending it to people in their seventies and eighties, and I’m saying to them, Did having a near-death experience as a child make any difference in your life?

[00:02:52] PMH Atwater: Uh, more or less an essay kind of thing, I suppose. Um, but I was asking them to tell me about it. And, and I’ll tell you , some of the replies were so tear stained. I could hardly read them. Well, one man sent me a book, I mean, literally a book, including pictures of his family. And although the things that it was now retired and looking back and you know, Bruce Grayson said, Nobody’s ever done this.

[00:03:29] PMH Atwater: Nobody’s ever thought of doing this. You know, looking at kids as kids from birth at the age of five especially, and then, you know, a little bit older. And then, you know, looking at the near death experience. Had a lot of experience with adult experiencers,