We look into the Lauren Spierer disappearance and links to Keyes. And the FBI comes up with a plan to manage Vermont and get Keyes talking.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothandWritten, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Music by William Hellfire, Whithe, Radical Face, Westy Reflector, and Sergey CheremisinovBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0113 | Real Bad News

True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

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With new evidence potential placing Israel Keyes in Upstate New York in the days following Maura Murray's disappearance, we re-evaluate his February 2004 trip to Utah, and some of the glaring flaws in the FBI's timeline. And Josh updates Julie Murray on his investigation into Keyes's February 2004 timeline and her experience with True Crime. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K and Michelle Tooker. And research assistance by Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.This episode featured Julie Murray. Resources included: •  https://www.weather.gov/•  https://www.the107degree.com/records•  Media Pressure•  mauramurraymissing.orgThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Yehezkal Rez, Spearfisher, Streams, Kyle Preston, and Amulets. Featured music by: The New Radicals Sponsored by: • BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0608 | 200 Seconds

Something found in Keyes's house and some odd information online take the team down two shocking investigative paths that converge in the most frustrating and strangest way. And the scope of what is possible with Keyes becomes dauntingly vaster.Take the travel surveyJoin the YouTube After Show Thursday at 9pm Eastern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2X2d7FVXwThis episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K, and Jordan Taylor This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  Music by: William Hellfire, John Gegelman, Yotam Agam, and Radical Face. Featured music by: Tori Amos Sponsored by: • BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0607 | Horse and Cow

In Vermont, two theories converge and blow the investigation wide open. And just as things seem like they can't get any crazier, they do.  Join the YouTube After Show tonight at 9pm Eastern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6S3UjCh2Q0This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz. Featuring: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Mike Vignola, Yehezkel Rez, and Radical Face. Featured music by: El Perro del Mar Sponsored by: BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0606 | Receipts. Proof. Timelines.

We continue our look into sightings of Israel Keyes at college campuses within Keyes Hotspots.   This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. Resources: The Olympian: Students reconsider safety on Evergreen campus The Bangor Daily News: Police searching for ‘collision’ rapist The Bangor Daily News: UMaine police investigate an alleged assault This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  Music by: William Hellfire, Parhelion, Jameson Nathan Jones, Wings for Louise, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured music by: The Eels  Sponsored by: BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0605 | Schools, part two (Patterns)

We begin looking at attacks and odd encounters at college campuses on the west coast, with one particular campus - familiar to us all - coming up again and again. These encounters force us to re-evaluate a previously covered disappearance, something from the Kim interviews, and Keyes's marathon days.  This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K. and Shana WilenskyResources: The Western Washington University Police The Cooper Point Journal, The Evergreen State College The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice: https://rachelcorriefoundation.org/  This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Tai Argaman, Jordan Hatfield, James Forest, Aquartos, Dan Mayo. Featured music by: Sarah Belkner  Sponsored by: BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

0113 | Real Bad News

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