On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks through the news with Dmitri
Alperovitch, NSA Cybersecurity director Rob Joyce and NSA CCC director
Morgan Adamski. They discuss:


  The Okta breach
  40-50k feral Ciscos
  Why the http/2 protocol flaw is a real headache
  The Ragnar Locker takedown
  What the NSA CCC has been thinking about


This week’s show is brought to you by Socket. Socket’s founder Feross
Aboukhadijeh joins us this week to talk about their actually-not-crazy
use of large language models in their product.

Risky Business #726 -- Okta owned while Cisco takes a massive L

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In this podcast SentinelOne’s Chief Trust officer Alex Stamos and its Chief Intelligence and Public Policy Officer Chris Krebs join Patrick Gray to talk all about AI.

It’s been a year and a half since ChatGPT landed and freaked everyone out. Since then, AI has really entrenched itself as the next big thing. It’s popping up everywhere, and the use cases for cybersecurity are starting to come into focus.

Threat actors and defenders are using this stuff already, but it’s early days and as you’ll hear, things are really going to change, and fast.

Wide World of Cyber: Krebs and Stamos on How AI Will Change Cybersecurity

This week Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau along special guest Lina Lau discuss the week’s news, including:


  The ongoing Ascension healthcare disruption, and
  Whether its reasonable for healthcare orgs to be pushing back
  Platforming cybercriminals for interviews
  Own the libs by… not using E2EE messaging?
  CISA’s secure by design, we want to believe!
  The $64billion scale of indusrialised fraud
  And much, much more.


This week’s sponsor is network discovery specialist, Run Zero. Director of research Rob King joins to talk about the weird and wonderful delights in their new Research Report.

Risky Business #748 -- New cyber rules for US healthcare are coming

Patrick dials in from RSA in San Francisco to discuss the week’s security news with Adam, including:


  The west doxxes LockbitSupp, who must now hide his hundred million dollars
  Revil hacker behind Kasaya breach gets 14 years
  Microsoft makes some positive sounding* noises on security
  A fun flaw in nearly all VPN clients
  Gitlab admins continue their never-ending incident response
  And much, much more.


This week’s sponsor is Stairwell. Long time infosec researcher Silas Cutler joins us to talk through his adventures in attacker C2 systems, and how this feeds into Stairwell’s data.

* we’re still sceptical they’ll get it right, but they do at least seem to realise how deep the doo-doo they’re in is… Pat speculates they have … tentacles, and a regulatory-threat-gland.

Risky Business #747 -- Lockbit Leader Has A Very Bad Day

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:


  Microsoft reassures* us that they take security very seriously*
  Cisco ASA firewalls get sneakily backdoored, but no one’s quite sure how
  Change Healthcare was 1FA Citrix all along
  The FTC, FCC and other government sticks get waved at tech
  Lizard Squad Finn who hacked the Vastaamo therapy chain gets sentenced
  And much, much more.


This week’s sponsor is Zero Networks, who make a network micro-segmentation product that is actually usable. Zero Networks CEO Benny Lakunishok joins us to talk through why firewalling everything everywhere is finally workable.

*  You’ll forgive us for being… a tad sceptical.

Risky Business #746 – Microsoft takes your security seriously*

In this edition of Snake Oilers we’ll be hearing from:


  Push Security: A browser plugin-based security company that combats identity-based attacks. (Much more compelling that it sounds in this description.)
  Knocknoc: The tool Risky Business uses to protect our own applications and services. (Restrict network/port access to users who are authenticated via SSO.)
  iVerify: Mobile security and threat hunting for iOS and Android. (Caught Pegasus in the wild!)

Risky Business #726 -- Okta owned while Cisco takes a massive L

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