Erin Lovell Verinder is an herbalist, wellness expert, and writer. Her husband Noah is a fellow plant enthusiast, prolific designer, and strategist who most recently designed Erin's latest book, The Plant Clinic. They are also some of my dearest friends. In this episode we discuss prioritizing beauty, creative process and collaboration, lessons on friendship and change, and more.

Space Between the Space: Erin Lovell Verinder & Noah Checkle on Leaving Places Better Than You Found Them, The Plant Clinic Book, Change, Friendship, Beauty & More

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This is a conversation with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty. It was recorded recently at her kitchen table with the scent of a walnut cake in the oven filling the room. She was first on in 2021 where we talked about starting CAP, cooking, and personal style, and I’ve been dying to have her back ever since. This episode covers updates on topics discussed last time plus we talk about: having a fixed vs. growth mindset, feeling left out, friendship vs. acquaintances, taking a psychological approach to aging, beauty, developing taste, interiors (including how to make your home feel like a supportive friend), and much more. She’s one of my all-time favorite guests. Let us know if you listen!

The Art of Tending: Kerrilynn Pamer, Founder of CAP Beauty, Returns

This is a conversation is with Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of the wellness company CAP Beauty. We recorded this at her kitchen table overlooking the mountains drinking espresso. She talks about starting CAP, being in the "unsexy" middle of a project, her love of cooking and sharing food, her evolving personal style, how to build and sustain positive relationships, and a whole lot more. This was recorded in 2022 but I'm re-airing it today because she's returning to the show next week. I recorded a brand new interview with her where we reference some of the topics we discussed here and she gives updates of what happened since, so stay tuned for that next week!

Messy Middles, Access, and Evolving with Kerrilynn Pamer, founder of CAP Beauty [REPOST]

This week I spoke to my close friend, chef, author, and screenwriter Phoebe Lapine. She is one of the most creative and self-aware people I know, and I deeply admire her and her work. We met years ago when I interviewed her when her book The Wellness Project came out and then again for her last book which was about SIBO. She has a new cookbook out now, called Carbivore, which I have been learning to cook from. We catch up in this episode about the topic of this new project which is, of course, carbs: we get into what led to carbs being demonized by the diet industry, what sugar and carbs actually mean for our blood sugar, food sequencing, digestion, how overthinking all of this can be damaging, and how we’ve both been on the extreme ends and how to navigate that. Let us know if you listen.

Have Your Carbs & Eat Them Too: Phoebe Lapine Returns

This week, Jessica Lyda returns. A friend recommended her sessions to me in 2020 and afterward I wanted to know how she got into it and have her share her wisdom here. The way that she works with people is hard to articulate, but she explains it well in this. Jessica has facilitated healing sessions with thousands of different people, from celebrities to therapists to shamans to skeptics to me! She helps you figure out some trapped emotions and how to release those. We also talk about: what to do when nothing is working, how to handle feeing stagnant, toxic relationships, setting boundaries, people-pleasing dynamics, overwhelm, catching ideas, and much more … let us know if you listen…

What To Do When Nothing Is Working: Jessica Lyda Returns

This week is part 2 of my conversation with longtime DJ and music producer, Free Oribhabor. He’s the founder of The Record Club, an immersive album listening experience he hosts monthly in LA. As the LA Times put it, "He wanted to create a music listening experience that replicated the grandiose feeling of sitting in a theater and watching a film with other fans." In part 2 we talk about how his musical taste has developed, having confidence in one's taste and allowing taste to change, and he also takes questions from friends.  Let us know if you listen.

Space Between the Space: Erin Lovell Verinder & Noah Checkle on Leaving Places Better Than You Found Them, The Plant Clinic Book, Change, Friendship, Beauty & More

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