What happens to a no-money-down BRRRR investor when a pandemic breaks out, lending standards suddenly tighten, private money lenders get skittish, and property values quickly drop?
Today, Josiah Smelser returns to the show and tells all.
In Part 1 yesterday, we learned how Josiah built a $4M portfolio by buying, renovating, renting, refinancing, and repeating using both hard money and private money.
Coronavirus hit him hard. And if he didn't have cash reserves, credit options, and the right mindset, it might have totally wiped him out.
When the virus hit, Josiah had 10 properties he needed to refinance. It was a perfect storm: His private money lender immediately pulled funds, his refinance bank changed their terms, and property values dropped—all at once—meaning he would need to bring way more cash to the table.
What happened next? Listen to this episode to learn about how Josiah made it through the nightmare and came out on the other side... with more equity and reduced interest payments.
Real estate investing isn't all sunshine and rainbows. But if you keep your mind right, plan your exit strategies, and maintain cash and credit lines, you too can survive the curveballs thrown your way.
In This Episode We Cover:

What happens when private lenders want their money back

Why Josiah's bank changed the loan-to-value ratio on him

Tapping a cash-out refinance in an emergency

Trying to sell a property you had planned to BRRRR


Taking out loans in your spouse's name to get around loan limitations

Key to pulling off a BRRRR in a down market


How Josiah saved $750K in interest over 30 years by getting a lower interest rate

How an attorney can help you arrange a great partnership

Why Josiah looks at this stressful time as a highlight of his real estate investing career

And SO much more!

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Surviving When the BRRRR Hits the Fan with Josiah Smelser (Part 2, Post-Coronavirus)

On the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast, co-hosts David Greene and Rob Abasolo interview real estate investors and entrepreneurs about successes, failures, and hard-earned lessons. Through in-depth conversations, 1-on-1 listener coaching calls, and news analysis, you’ll get a breakdown of real strategies that work for different niches and experience levels. Tune into the #1 real estate investing podcast every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

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How do you find investment properties nobody else is looking for—the ones with cash flow potential, equity upside, and wealth-building qualities all the other investors overlook? Simple: buy what nobody else wants. For Lisa Field Moore, that’s old homes. Most rookie investors walk into an old house, notice the foundation problems, warped floors, and outdated electricals, and quickly see themselves out. But Lisa sees money to be made—and you should too.
In this episode, Lisa shares how she’s built a sizable real estate portfolio by buying old, overlooked, and outdated homes, all in the past four years! But these are treacherous waters, and getting a major rehab item wrong could cost you a deal. To help, Lisa breaks down what isn’t (and definitely is) a red flag when looking at old homes, how she lost serious money making one easy mistake, and how to avoid doing a bad deal ever again. Plus, she shares her tips for rock-solid tenant retention that’ll keep your rental properties filled for years (or even decades!).
Want to know how to find these older homes with wealth-building potential? Stick around because DealMachine gives us a bonus segment on the five ways to find a motivated seller in ANY market! 
In This Episode We Cover:
Why you cannot overlook rehabbing older homes and outdated properties 
The two things that tell Lisa an older home ISN’T worth investing in 
Why termites, foundation problems, and outdated electrical systems aren’t as bad as you think
The huge mistake Lisa made that ruined a $100K+ rehab project and how to avoid the same fate
Tenant retention 101 and best ways to ensure your vacancy rate is low and your cash flow is high 
DealMachine’s five ways to find motivated sellers in any market 
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(00:00) Intro
(01:31) Investing in OLD Houses
(05:22) Signs of a Solid Property
(10:18) $100K Rehab Gone WRONG
(16:06) How to Avoid Bad Deals
(19:42) When to Hold and When to Sell
(23:54) Tenant Retention 101 
(34:27) 5 Ways to Find Motivated Sellers

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942: Building Wealth with OLD Homes and How to Keep Tenants for Longer w/Lisa Field Moore

Should you pay off debt or invest? Many online financial gurus would tell you in a heartbeat that paying off debt is the number one priority…but is that always true? What if there was a way to pay off debt WHILE investing, so you could lower your liabilities AND build wealth in the background? And what if you could do that even if you were hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt? If this sounds like your situation, this Seeing Greene is for you!
David and Rob are back, answering your real estate questions so YOU can build wealth faster, reach financial freedom, and live the life you love. Our first question comes from a concerned rental property owner wondering why his property management company can’t do something seemingly simple. Then, a nationwide investor asks, “Are home warranties ever worth it?” A medical student with massive student loans asks how to start investing while in debt, and an aspiring investor asks how to turn his inherited rental property into a big portfolio. Will robots cause the downfall of real estate, and when is it the right time to add a bedroom to your rental? All that and more are coming up in this episode!
Want to ask David a question? If so, submit your question here so David can answer it on the next episode of Seeing Greene. Hop on the BiggerPockets forums and ask other investors their take, or follow David on Instagram to see when he’s going live so you can jump on a live Q&A and get your question answered on the spot!

In This Episode We Cover:
Should you invest or pay down debt? We have a strategy for doing BOTH!
What to do when your property management company ISN’T doing what you want
Home warranties 101: an appliance saver or a complete waste of money?
How to turn one rental property into an entire portfolio using HELOCs and cash-out refinances
Whether or not construction “robots” will cause home prices to plunge 
When (and when NOT) to add bedrooms or extra space to your rental property
And So Much More!
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Seeing Greene: Rehab Costs, Renting vs. Owning, and The END of Real Estate?
Should I Pay Off My Student Loan or Invest in Real Estate?
Complete Guide to Home Warranties


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941: Seeing Greene: Are Home Warranties Worth It & When to Pay Off Debt vs. Invest?

Everyone knows how to find a real estate agent. But an investor-friendly agent—one who will find deals for you, run the numbers, hook you up with contractors, and help you get funding—isn’t the same as your neighborhood agent down the street. These agents have connections that can help skyrocket a new real estate investor’s portfolio and bring them deals that no one else knows about. So, how do you find these diamond-in-the-rough real estate agents? You need to ask THESE questions.
To help you vet your future investor-friendly real estate agent is James Dainard. James is a flipper, wholesaler, broker, investor, and lender in the Seattle, Washington, area. He’s been buying and selling houses for two decades and does more deals in one month than most investors do in years! He’s here to guide any investor through finding an investor-friendly agent, the crucial questions you MUST ask at the start, his number one tip for finding the best agents in an area, and how agents can set themselves apart from the competition.
But that’s not all. With the latest agent commission lawsuits, more buyers are aware that commissions are negotiable. So, whether you’re looking to get a steal on your next deal or want a first-class buying and selling experience, James walks through how you may now be able to negotiate what commission you want to give an agent, depending on what matters most to you.
In This Episode We Cover:
The best place to find a real estate agent (for investors!)
Questions you MUST ask any “investor-friendly” agent BEFORE you use them 
The services that expert-level agents provide that’ll help you build wealth faster
Negotiating agent commissions and how the recent NAR lawsuit could change the agent landscape
How to make sure that your agent knows what they’re talking about when they bring you deals
And So Much More!
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(00:00) Intro
(00:52) Regular vs. Investor-Friendly Agents
(04:21) Services to Look For
(08:47) How to Find the Right Agent 
(13:50) #1 Tip to Try 
(17:04) Questions to Ask Your Agent
(19:36) Elite Agents Have This
(25:22) Negotiating Commissions 

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940: Crucial Questions to Ask an Agent and How to Negotiate Commissions w/James Dainard

If you’re a first-time home buyer, now may be one of the best times to get a loan in recent history, according to mortgage advisor Jeff Welgan. With new no-money-down mortgages coming out specifically to help first-time home buyers finally get into a property, you can now buy a house for no money out of pocket, with your entire purchase price and closing costs covered. These 100% financeable loans aren’t a secret, so why don’t most first-time home buyers know about them?
In this BiggerNews, we’re diving deep into the best first-time home buyer loans available in 2024, how to pick up your first property for NO MONEY out of pocket, and low-money-down multifamily deals any brand new investor can start buying today. With affordability at nearly forty-year lows, most Americans struggle to save up a down payment, even if they have enough income to qualify for a home loan. This is where 100% financeable loans come in, making it easier than ever to buy your first home.
So, who can get approved for these first-time home buyer mortgages, where do you find them, and how do they work? Jeff goes through these programs on the federal and state levels, showing first-time home buyers where to find them, which loans to avoid, and whether or not they can use these loans to buy their next property.
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In This Episode We Cover:
How to get 100% financing on your first property (no money down!)
Who qualifies for these first-time home buyer loans, and which properties require a down payment
The problem with FHA loans and where you should/shouldn’t use them
Rate buydowns and why this once valuable tool is no longer being used
How to invest in small multifamily with VERY little money down
And So Much More!
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(00:00) Intro
(01:12) 100% Financing For Your FIRST Home? 
(06:28) How These Loans Work 
(11:40) The Problem with FHA Loans?
(14:35) Getting a Lower Mortgage Rate
(25:30) Low Money Down Multifamily Investing 

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939: BiggerNews: 100% Financing for First-Time Home Buyers is HERE w/Jeff Welgan

If there’s one thing that’ll make or break your real estate portfolio, it’s property management. When done correctly, property management can feed you consistent, passive income without the everyday stressors of being a landlord. Whenever you hear people talking about bad tenants, midnight phone calls, or surprise maintenance problems, they’re really talking about property management gone wrong. So, how does a rookie real estate investor, with even just one rental property, start managing the right way so they can scale their portfolio faster? 
Amelia McGee and Grace Gudenkauf, authors of The Self-Managing Landlord, did it all wrong initially. They were picking up every tenant phone call, placing every service request, taking rent payments every which way, and here’s the thing—none of it was working. As they scaled their portfolios, things only got more difficult until finally, one day, they stopped and developed a system, and like that, their businesses took off.
Now, only a few years into real estate investing, both Amelia and Grace have dozens of rental units to their names and less stress than ever before. How did they do it all WITHOUT hiring everything out to a property manager? In today’s show, they’ll share the self-managing principles they used to explode their rental portfolios while staying sane! And if you’re a new investor or are about to be one, these tips could save you YEARS of headaches!
In This Episode We Cover:
Why EVERY real estate investor should be self-managing when building their portfolio
How to start building your property management “system” that’ll save you HOURS a week
What brand new investors NEED to start doing once they have their first property
Three apps/software that every real estate investor should have
Tenant selection 101 and simple mistakes that could cost you months of rent 
How to know it's time to start outsourcing and signs you need some help
And So Much More!
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(00:00) Intro
(01:48) EVERYONE Should Self-Manage
(04:06) How Bad Management Burns YOU
(09:31) Start Doing This NOW
(14:08) Tips for Your First Rental Property
(19:26) 3 Apps/Software You Need
(22:44) Tenant Selection and Screening
(26:56) Outsourcing vs. DIY
(32:21) When to Hire it Out
(36:11) Grab the Book!

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Surviving When the BRRRR Hits the Fan with Josiah Smelser (Part 2, Post-Coronavirus)

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