This week Dan & Ian talk about a topic that came up countless times at this year’s DCBKK: Whether to exit or stay in your business.  

They’ll revisit frameworks from their book Before The Exit and discuss how to figure out what's best for your business. 

After that, Dan chats with DCBKK Master of Ceremonies Adam Palmeter about his experience at this year’s event compared to years past. 

Dan & Ian’s Stuff:

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Links:


  Apply for DC Black
  DCBKK Recap Video
  Sam Corcos on Tim Ferriss
  Adam Palmeter


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Dana Lindahl, Anthony Fasano, Adam Palmeter

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

Insights from DCBKK 2023: The UI vs API of a Location, How Bootstrappers Are Getting Wealthy, 2024 Business Strategy, and More

5 Things Founders Often Misunderstand about Exiting Their Business

Dissecting the American Dream & Business Lessons from the Elon Musk Bio

#727 The Freedom Line, 7+ Figure Founders, and Extended DCBKK Recap

With 10M+ downloads and thousands of listener meetups worldwide, the TMBA Podcast is the hub for 7 & 8-figure founders who’ve built life-changing businesses while attaining personal freedom. New episodes every Thursday morning.

Society & Culture

Personal Journals

History

Philosophy

Places & Travel

Business

Investing

Careers

Management & Marketing

Business News

Shopping

Management

Entrepreneurship

This week we had the pleasure of sitting down with Barry O'Brien, a global traveler, as he shares his 18-month journey to 15 countries on just $100 a day or less. 

Barry tells us stories about his experience in Vietnam, the most surprisingly underwhelming destination he visited, the most expensive and inexpensive destinations, how he saved, prepared, and what he learned in the end. 

He discusses his journey from following Dave Ramsey's steps to discovering the FIRE movement and combining the principles of both to pay off $51,000 of debt, and give him the financial freedom to pursue his dream trip.

He talks about the importance of passive income, his philosophy of focusing on one thing that you can do well, the process of obtaining US citizenship, and the challenges and opportunities it presents.

Dan & Ian’s Stuff:

Our book: Before the Exit

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Accelerator

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Chapters:


(00:03:21) Your Ticket to One Million - DC Accelerator
(00:14:59) Exploring Western Europe on a Budget
(00:26:13) Indulging in Peru's Food and Culture
(00:30:15) Managing Travel Costs to Extend the Trip
(00:34:41) Finding Peace and Financial Independence
(00:39:10) The Competitive Landscape of US Citizenship


Links:


DC Accelerator
DC Black
Dave Ramsey Solutions


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Mike Michalowicz, Greg Crabtree, Jordan Gal

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

The 1 Million Dollar Question

“The Death of the follower” + Make 250k in 3 Days a Week

What is the Most Simple OS for <$5M? 

Lessons From an 18-Month Trip Around the World on $100 a Day

Crafting your value proposition into an irresistible offer is not an easy task. Andrew Jacoby, entrepreneur and visionary behind Growth Era, a thriving outbound sales company, knows this all too well. 

Andrew shares his journey, highlighting the pivotal role of Sales Development Representatives (SDRs) in driving business success.

Discover the power of focusing on what you know best and building a business around recurring services as Andrew unveils the concept of risk reversal and its impact on skyrocketing conversion rates. 

From navigating the challenges of educating a market to the transition from CEO to operator, Andrew offers practical strategies for building a robust team and fostering deep community connections amidst a nomadic lifestyle.

Tune in as Andrew delves into the core values of moral fiber and virtue in business, underscoring the true essence of freedom and happiness. 

Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or seasoned business leader, this episode promises a wealth of wisdom to elevate your sales game.

Dan & Ian’s Stuff:

Our book: Before the Exit

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Chapters 

● (00:00:47) Introduction and Background

● (00:04:19) Growth Era: Company Overview

● (00:04:47) Andrew's Sales Background

● (00:07:29) Challenges and Successes in Outbound Sales

● (00:10:29) Understanding SDRs and Their Role

● (00:12:14) Types of Businesses that Benefit from SDRs

● (00:16:59) Developing an Attractive Offer

● (00:18:15) Growth Era's Business Model

● (00:19:37) Finding Success in Familiar Territory

● (00:23:55) The Importance of Serving People

● (00:25:04) Pricing and Confidence

● (00:25:44) Choosing Between Being an Operator and a CEO

● (00:26:43) Knowing When a Company is Ready for Adults

● (00:29:45) Deep Work and Problem Solving

● (00:32:49) The Nomad Lifestyle

● (00:35:34) The Importance of Community

● (00:38:18) The Pursuit of Virtue and Love

● (00:39:42) The True Meaning of Freedom and Happiness

Links:


  Andrew Jacoby - Linkedin 
  Nick Huber Twitter
  firstfishermenmedia.com/


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Mike Michalowicz, Greg Crabtree, Jordan Gal

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

“The Death of the follower” + Make 250k in 3 Days a Week

What is the Most Simple OS for <$5M? 

Do Things That Don’t Scale

#752 The 1 Million Dollar Question

Is it possible to bootstrap a high-level business if you’re broke? Listen to Dan & Ian’s take on what kinds of businesses are best to start when you’re starting with basically nothing. 

Also, what the hell does a visionary do? Dan suggests that the best visionaries have integrator tendencies. 

They’ll consider how Kevin Kelly’s “100 True Fans” can lead to sustainable revenue through a concept called “The Death of the Follower”.

Lastly, Dan pitches a business idea that requires zero startup cost, 3 days a week of effort, and could easily net you $250K.

Dan & Ian’s Stuff:

Our book: Before the Exit

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Chapters 

● (00:00:39) Introduction and companies over title’ing

● (00:04:00) Starting a Bootstrap Business When You're Broke

● (00:08:29) The Role of Visionaries in Company Success

● (00:14:55) The Death of the Follower & Engaging with Social Media Algorithms

● (00:19:54) The Future of Search: AI and Personalization

Links:


  Nick Huber Twitter
  Kevin Kelley - Article - A Thousand True Fans
  The Death of the Follower


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Mike Michalowicz, Greg Crabtree, Jordan Gal

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

What is the Most Simple OS for <$5M? 

Do Things That Don’t Scale

Three Phases to 1 Million in Revenue

#751 “The Death of the Follower” + How I’d Make $250K in 3 Days a Week

The hard part shouldn’t be how to implement an OS in your organization. The hard part is answering the question: Are the right people in the right roles at your company? 

In this episode, Dan and Ian share their own OS that’s extremely simple. It’s called GPS. They’ll explain how GPS helps you put a plan in place to meet your goals, and deliver on that plan. That’s it. 

Also, hiring for specific tasks, the impact of remote work on hiring, and more. 

Dan & Ian’s Stuff:

Our book: Before the Exit

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Chapters 

● (00:00:41) Introduction and 'Meaty Shorts' Format

● (00:06:48) Hiring for Specific Tasks in a Business

● (00:15:55) Minimum Viable EOS (GPS) Implementation

● (00:16:27) Implementing the EOS System: The GPS Framework

● (00:18:54) Using Scorecards for Clarity and Accountability

● (00:25:06) The Importance of Regular Check-ins and Standing Meetings

Links:


  Dan Martell - Who to Hire Next
  The EOS Business Model 
  Scorecard template (G doc)


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Mike Michalowicz, Greg Crabtree, Jordan Gal

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

Do Things That Don’t Scale

Three Phases to 1 Million in Revenue

Quiet Crypto, The Demand Question, and Difficult Decisions ft. Jordan Gal

#750 What is the Most Simple OS for <$5M?

In this episode, Ian and Dan discuss the concept of doing things that don't scale, inspired by Paul Graham's influential article 'Do Things That Don't Scale.' They explore the idea of taking risks and gambling in entrepreneurship, and how it relates to increasing one's locus of control. The conversation covers various strategies for founders, including recruiting users manually, building something fragile, delighting users, focusing on experience, and niche marketing. In this conversation, Ian and Dan discuss Paul Graham's article 'Do Things That Don't Scale' and explore the principal themes and takeaways. They cover topics such as the idea of scaling, fabricating products yourself, consulting and acting as an anchor client, going manual and doing unscalable laborious tasks, the illusion of big launches and partnerships, vectors vs. scalars (ideas and execution), and the temptation to gamble and the importance of locus of control.

Our book: Before the Exit

The Newsletter

“The DC”

DC Black

Global events

Hire remote talent

Find a remote job

Listen on YouTube

Follow on Instagram

@TropicalMBA

@AnythingIan

Chapters 

● (00:00:47) Introduction and Waking Up Early

● (00:01:58) The Concept of Taking Risks and Gambling

● (00:03:52) Introduction to Paul Graham and Y Combinator

● (00:05:37) The Importance of Doing Things That Don't Scale

● (00:10:00) Recruiting Users Manually

● (00:12:48) Building Something Fragile

● (00:20:48) Niche Marketing

● (00:23:02) The Facebook and the Idea of Scaling

● (00:24:53) Consulting and Acting as an Anchor Client

● (00:27:17) Going Manual and Doing Unscalable Laborious Tasks

● (00:30:08) The Illusion of Big Launches and Partnerships

● (00:34:54) Vectors vs. Scalars: Ideas and Execution

● (00:38:36) The Temptation to Gamble and the Importance of Locus of Control

Links:


  Paul Graham’s Article “Do Things That Don’t Scale”
  Lao Tzu - Philosophy


Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Tommy Griffith, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Travis Jamison, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Tynan, Lucy Bella Simkins, Brian Balfour, Nick Huber, Mike Michalowicz, Greg Crabtree, Jordan Gal

Additional episodes you might enjoy:

Three Phases to 1 Million in Revenue

Quiet Crypto, The Demand Question, and Difficult Decisions ft. Jordan Gal

“3 Million in Revenue is a Death Zone" - Financial Strategy with Greg Crabtree

#727 The Freedom Line, 7+ Figure Founders, and Extended DCBKK Recap

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