In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Dr. Sally Smith’s son, Patrick. They discuss the impact of the slanted and sensationalized media coverage of Dr. Sally Smith’s work on him and his family. Patrick shares his pride in his mother's career as well as fears over the impact of the media coverage and the verdict in the Kowalski case.  
The full unbridged interview with Dr. Sally Smith will be available to subscribers.  
In the meantime, we are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  
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Unabridged interview with Patrick (son of Dr. Sally Smith)

Novelist Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake. Along the way, she becomes captivated by the case of Hope Ybarra. Dunlop speaks to those most familiar with the case, from the reporter who broke the story, to the detective who investigated it, to the family who lived through it. In the dramatic finale, she’ll speak to Hope Ybarra herself.​ ​ (LM032423)

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Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's. They discuss the grounds for a retrial based on allegations of juror misconduct and the potential chilling effect on mandatory reporters following the substantial amount of money awarded to the Kowalski family by the jury. 
We also look at the the broader societal impacts on mandatory reporting and the protecting vulnerable children from abuse. 
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Kowalski Case Update with Ethen Shapiro

This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's, as well as the documentary 'Take Care of Maya'. In court, Beata's death was presented as an act of maternal sacrifice and heroism. Through interviews and court deposition excerpts, we'll explore the odd circumstances leading up to and immediately after Beata's death that suggest a far more complex story might lie beneath the surface.
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What Happened to Beata?

Introducing Introducing: The Fraud Files - The Rise & Fall of Dawn J. Bennett from The Fraud Files. Follow the show: The Fraud Files The Fraud Files, by FloQast Studios, is a true financial crime podcast, that takes on the form of an narrative “audio-movie” in the way it tells a story through assorted voice actor characters and sound design. The first season is 6 episodes long, and takes listeners through the fascinating and bizarre career journey of Dawn J. Bennett, who was an American financial advisor that turned into a fraud criminal at the highest of levels, and used uncanny methods to preserve her brand image and keep her clients money in her possession. The story teaches listeners about how fraud like this is committed, and is a lesson in ethics, due-diligence, and professional skepticism best practices. Hosted by Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope, CPA, all podcast podcast episodes are eligible for CPE credit to listeners on www.FloQademy.com starting May 2, 2024. For more information about the show, check out www.fraudfilespod.com 

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SEASON 1 of The Fraud Files The Fraud Files delves into the captivating world of white-collar crime… but with a twist. In Season 1 of The Fraud Files, we explore the saga of a renowned financial advisor whose entire empire was built on deception. It’s one thing to be swindling clients' money to use for personal luxuries… but it’s a whole other side of fraud to be using the money on magical spells. Through a unique blend of forensic accounting, vivid storytelling, and rich sound design, we uncover the intricate lies that propelled Dawn J. Bennett's professional and personal life—all in one captivating movie for your ears. DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.

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As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s verdict, in which a jury awarded Jack Kowalski more than $200 million dollars in damages following the suicide of his wife Beata while their daughter Maya Kowalski was in state custody because a medical child abuse investigation. Though the media has been largely sympathetic to Kowalski’s case—thanks in large part to the popular Netflix film “Take Care of Maya”—our exploration continues to reveal that nothing about this story is what is seems. 
With the case headed towards appeal, we take a closer look at newly released information about what was going on with the Kowalski family, as well as how this verdict is affecting mandatory reporting and the safety of children in pediatric hospitals all around the country.  
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What Jack Knew

Introducing Episode #1: How NOT To Get Away With Fraud from The Fraud Files. Follow the show: The Fraud Files Earn CPE Credit For This Podcast by listening here: https://bit.ly/3JFIQUz

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In Episode 1 of The Fraud Files, listeners enter a forensic accounting classroom as instructor Kelly Richmond Pope, PhD in Accounting, Fraud Expert, and Author, begins to tell us about the story of financial advisor Dawn J. Bennett, in how she began her advisory business, and the tactics she used to get new clients on board. We also hear about how the timing of her business development, during the 2008 recession, impacted how she used narratives to maintain her brand during these difficult times in the investment world.EXTRA STUFFHead over to https://www.fraudfilespod.com/p/credits/ for a list of credits. Follow FloQast StudiosInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/floqaststudios/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FloQastStudiosTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/floqaststudios Watch Seasons 1 & 2 of PBC here: https://bit.ly/4b0oH7YABOUT THE SHOWThe Fraud Files, by FloQast Studios, is a true financial crime podcast, that takes on the form of a narrative “audio-movie” in the way it tells a story through assorted voice actor characters and sound design. The first season is 6 episodes long, and takes listeners through the fascinating and bizarre career journey of Dawn J. Bennett, who was an American financial advisor that turned into a fraud criminal at the highest of levels, and used uncanny methods to preserve her brand image and keep her clients money in her possession. The story teaches listeners about how fraud like this is committed, and is a lesson in ethics, due-diligence, and professional skepticism best practices. The Fraud Files is a FloQast Studios production, produced on behalf of FloQast inc. and FloQademy.

You can find more of our work, such as the workplace comedy series, PBC, at  FloQast Studios, and if you’re looking for more ways to earn CPE, you’ll find a wide variety of engaging formats and topics across the library of courses we’ve produced by heading to floqademy.com --
SEASON 1 of The Fraud Files The Fraud Files delves into the captivating world of white-collar crime… but with a twist. In Season 1 of The Fraud Files, we explore the saga of a renowned financial advisor whose entire empire was built on deception. It’s one thing to be swindling clients' money to use for personal luxuries… but it’s a whole other side of fraud to be using the money on magical spells. Through a unique blend of forensic accounting, vivid storytelling, and rich sound design, we uncover the intricate lies that propelled Dawn J. Bennett's professional and personal life—all in one captivating movie for your ears. DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.

Unabridged interview with Patrick (son of Dr. Sally Smith)

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