Versus Trump

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On Versus Trump, we discuss how the Trump Administration is breaking the law, and what people are doing about it. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Versus Trump episodes:

01.25.2021
The End...Or The Beginning?
Well, this is it for Versus Trump, folks. Trump ain't President anymore! He doesn't even have a twitter account. What a way to end. Charlie and Jason bring back Easha to discuss the short and long term impact of January insurrection. They...
01.11.2021
The Aftermath + Interview with Joshua Matz
On this week's Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the madness of last week and what might happen next for impeachment, cirminal charges against Trump, and more. They are then joined by Take Care publisher Joshua Matz to discuss his views on...
12.07.2020
Going To Church In Times Of COVID
On this week's Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the recent Supreme Court decisions requiring states to allow in-person religious services even while other gatherings can be banned. The pair gently disagree about how hard or easy these cases are. You can find...
11.17.2020
Legal Update + The GSA Travesty
On this week's Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the status of Trump's legal challenges to the election (going nowhere) and the Trump Administration's dangerous and illegal refusal to designate Biden as the President-elect and therefore give his team resources for a...
11.08.2020
Legal Challenges + Post Office Case
On this week's Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the (frivolous) legal challenges to come. They are then joined by Public Citizen's Matthew Seligman to learn what happened with all those last-minute ballots, and what might happen in ongoing litigation in...
11.02.2020
The Law Headed Into The Election
Will this be the last Versus Trump before Trump loses reelection? Who knows, but, on this week’s episode, Jason and Charlie discuss key theories that will shape which votes count. (Note that this episode was recorded before all relevant Supreme Court decisions were...
10.15.2020
Versus The Post Office
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie are joined by Matthew Seligman of Public Citizen to discuss several lawsuits—including one in which he is counsel, NAACP v. USPS—where plaintiffs have challenged the cuts by the postal service that may slow down election...
10.06.2020
Can Trump Steal The Election?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss whether Trump can really "steal" the election, as some have started to worry about. They discuss Jason's piece here on the topic. Plus, they say goodbye to Justice Ginsburg. You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on twitter, or send...
09.17.2020
Blurring Public and Private Conduct
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss two new legal filings by the Trump DOJ that blur the line between the President as government official and the President as private citizen. In the first case, the government argues that the President's...
08.25.2020
Trump Versus Mail Voting
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss voting by mail in the pandemic. Have courts allowed the rules to be changed, either in responses to suits there should be more voting by mail—or less? You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on twitter, or...
07.18.2020
Are Tax Returns Coming Soon?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss the Supreme Court's pair of decisions governing Trump's tax returns. Are they coming soon? Did the Democrats make a mistake in not being more aggressive in invoking the impeachment power? Find out! You can find...
07.06.2020
On Flynn, Bolton, and Mary Trump
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss the D.C. Circuit's extraordinary intervention in the Michael Flynn case, and then move on to two lawsuits seeking to block publication of books: John Bolton's and Mary Trump's. Note: after this podcast was...
06.22.2020
Easha's Back, To Talk Qualified Immunity and Police Reform
On this week’s Versus Trump, Easha Anand makes her triumphant return to talk qualified immunity and police reform. The trio talk about the proposal to reform qualified immunity and debate whether that will do much. They then break down other new legal...
06.08.2020
The Military in the U.S. and Proxy Voting in the House
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie take on two topics. First, what can the president legally do to use the military on American soil? Second, is it legal for the House of Representatives to vote by proxy, without being physically...
05.24.2020
What Will Happen To Michael Flynn?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss the extraordinary motion to dismiss Michael Flynn's criminal case. Does the DOJ's logic make sense? And what can Judge Sullivan do if he chooses not to dismiss the case? You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on...
05.11.2020
Can The Presidential Election Be Cancelled?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss the question of whether the upcoming election can be "cancelled" for political or pandemic reasons. They agree it'd be illegal...but does that mean it absolutely cannot happen? You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on twitter, or send us an...
04.28.2020
Are Churches Being Discriminated Against?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss claims by churches that stay-at-home orders violate their religious freedom. Turns out it can be a tough issue! You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on twitter, or send us an email at [email protected]. You can buy t-shirts...
04.17.2020
Wisconsin Republicans Versus Elections
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss last week's election in Wisconsin, include two rulings—one by the Wisconsin Supreme Court and one by the U.S. Supreme Court—that don't hold up very well in light of what occurred. You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on...
04.02.2020
Trump vs. The Mainstream Media
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss cases by the Trump campaign against the New York Times, CNN, and the Washington Post accusing each of these media organizations with defamation (sometimes also called libel). They have a bit of a laugh...
03.28.2020
Should Detainees Be Released?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss a lawsuit in Seattle, Dawson v. Asher, requesting that several vulnerable people in immigration detention be released. They discuss the legal standard for detention, why detention centers are particularly dangerous places, and what courts...
03.19.2020
Should Democrats Try And Pack The Court?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason talks with Aaron Belkin and Matt Lehrich of Take Back The Court. They talk about Aaron's idea for the Democrats to add four seats to the U.S. Supreme Court in response to what he sees as...
03.12.2020
Lots To Discuss...
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason cover a number of outstanding decisions and issues that they've missed over the last month. They begin with a discussion about a federal court's recent decision calling AG Barr's summary of the Mueller Report not...
03.05.2020
Enforce Your Own Subpoena!
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the D.C. Circuit's recent opinion holding that courts have no power to enforce subpoenas issued by the House. They discuss the opinion's rationale, whether it makes sense, and whether the House might—or should—take the court up...
02.13.2020
State Immunity Under The VRA + Adios, Easha :(
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss a dissenting opinion by a Trump-appointed judge arguing that states cannot be sued for violating the Voting Rights Act. They then say goodbye to Easha with a tribute to her thinking about Versus Trump law and litigation. We shall miss you,...
02.06.2020
Was Impeachment Good or Bad?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss Jason's ongoing essays for the Take Care blog about whether impeachment was good or bad, net-positive or net-negative. This leads them to discuss whether the Democrats should have more aggressively pursued witnesses and whether this whole proceeding...
01.30.2020
Vs. The Inaugural Committee, Plus Bolton Update
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason look at a new lawsuit by D.C. claiming that Trump's inaugural committee overpaid for space at the Trump Hotel and thus "wasted" at least $1 million in charitable funds. Spoiler alert: the lawsuit seems convincing....
01.25.2020
Who Are The Presidential Electors?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Charlie and Easha take a deep dive into two recently granted Supreme Court cases that go to the heart of the systems that we use to elect the President. (We chose this week to cover this topic because...
01.16.2020
Trump vs. The Equal Rights Amendment
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Easha, and Charlie discuss the Trump Administration's new legal opinion regarding the legal status of the Equal Rights Amendment, also known as the ERA. They consider what will happen now that Virginia has become the...
01.09.2020
Amazon vs. Trump
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Easha, and Charlie consider a new lawsuit by Amazon, in which the company claims that it was illegally denied a $10 billion Pentagon contract because of President Trump's stated dislike of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. And...
01.02.2020
The Senate As Impeachment Court
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie dive deep into two impeachment-related questions. First, what is the formal role of the Senate in an impeachment trial, and what power does the Chief Justice have? (Hint: Senators have all the power; the Chief...
12.29.2019
Year-End Mailbag
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie answer listener questions about impeachment, bribery, sanctions, and more! Thanks again for another great year. Remember to email any questions to [email protected] to be on the next mailbag. You can find us at @VersusTrumpPod on twitter, or send us an...
12.19.2019
Method or Madness
On this week’s Versus Trump, Easha and Charlie discuss the Trump Administration’s efforts to resume federal executions after a decade-and-a-half hiatus. We talk about the district court ruling enjoining those efforts, the Supreme Court’s decision to keep the executions on hold while...
12.12.2019
We're Famous! And There Are Articles
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Charlie, and Easha respond to Rep. Matt Gaetz's shoutout to this podcast during the Judiciary Committee's impeachment hearings. They then discuss their reactions to the Democrats' strategy with their public hearings and articles of impeachment. You...
12.05.2019
Two Guns Cases, And More
First, real talk: yes, Versus Trump really did get a shoutout at the impeachment hearings on Wednesday! More on that next week, and there's a link to the exchange in the shownotes. We recorded this episode before that happened, but...
11.21.2019
What Is Bribery?
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Charlie, and Easha discuss the definition of "bribery" for impeachment purposes, since Nancy Pelosi claimed that's what the evidence is showing at the impeachment hearings. They talk about how Congress and citizens should think about this notoriously...
11.14.2019
States vs. The Conscience Rule
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Charlie, and Easha discuss a court's opinion vacating the Trump Administration's so-called "conscience rule." This rule would have broadly permitted many employees in the healthcare sector from in any way participating in procedures with which they have...
11.08.2019
Sanctions Versus DeVos
On this week’s special edition of Uncle Charlie's Sanctions Corner–wait, we mean Versus Trump—Jason, Charlie, and Easha bring on Eileen Connor of the Project on Predatory Student to discuss a major opinion issuing sanctions against the Department of Education. They discuss the Department's egregious conduct...
11.06.2019
The Coming Exec Privilege Showdown
[Sorry for delayed posting!] On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason, Charlie, and Easha talk executive privilege. They outline the legal landscape of several hard questions in this area, like can the President completely prevent executive officials from testifying, and what role...
10.24.2019
A Real Impeachment Episode
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie really talk impeachment. They answer two questions that have been debated in the media. First, does the full House need to vote to formally start impeachment proceedings? Second, does the President have a right, at...
10.17.2019
Trump's No Good, Very Bad Day
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Easha break down President Trump's bad day in court on Friday, October 11. On that day, he lost three different lawsuits: one on the "public charge" immigration rule, one on Congress's subpoena power, and one on...
10.10.2019
Uncle Charlie's Comity Hour
On this week’s Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie discuss the major recent decision dismissing the President's attempt to block his accounting firm from turning over his tax returns to the Manhattan DA. The two talk about both aspects of the decision: first,...
10.03.2019
An Impeachment Primer
Gotcha, suckers! No impeachment dessert until you eat your immigration broccoli. On this week’s Versus Trump, Easha (back from parental leave!) and Charlie (just starting parental leave) discuss two immigration losses for the Trump administration. The first concerns Trump’s attempts to roll...
09.26.2019
Can You Hear The Whistle Blowing?
On this week's episode of Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the legal stakes of the fight over what Trump said to the President of Ukraine and the related whistleblower complaint. A lot happened between when they recorded the episode and when...
09.19.2019
What's Left of Asylum Law?
On this week's episode of Versus Trump, Charlie and Jason discuss the Supreme Court's recent action permitting the Trump Administration to enforce tough new restrictions on asylum eligibility for those who enter the U.S. at the southern border. They discuss the tough new policy, whether...
09.12.2019
Watch Out, Watch List
On this week's episode of Versus Trump, Charlie and guest-host Alexandra Brodsky discuss a recent opinion invalidating the FBI's terrorism watch-list. They discuss the implications of the opinion for the Trump administration (and beyond), the merits (and demerits) of the court's...
09.05.2019
Versus DeVos 2.0
This week on Versus Trump, Jason discusses the continuing illegal intransigence of the Department of Education, with Eileen Connor and Toby Merrill of Harvard's Project on Predatory Student Lending. Eileen and Toby explain how many students have a right to have their student...
08.29.2019
Straight to the Supremes
This week on Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie are back from a hiatus, and they discuss why the Trump Administration has been going to straight to the Supreme Court with emergency requests so frequently. They use that question to delve into some...
08.22.2019
We're Still Here! (Quick Update)
Okay, we're not gonna lie: we've been slacking this month. But we just wanted to let you know that we're still here and will be back with new episodes soon! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
08.01.2019
Trump v. Everyone Who Wants His Tax Returns
This week on Versus Trump, Jason and Charlie are back from a hiatus to discuss the President's lawsuit against New York State and the House Ways and Means Committee, both of whom—he says—may be conspiring to release his New York State tax...
07.18.2019
The Past and Future Of Gerrymandering
This week on Versus Trump, Jason and Easha are joined by guest host Melissa Murray of NYU Law and the new Strict Scrutiny podcast. They discuss the recent Supreme Court decision on gerrymandering (Rucho v. Common Cause), what's next in the fight, and where...

What's Versus Trump about?

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Versus Trump episodes:

The End...Or The Beginning?

The Aftermath + Interview with Joshua Matz

Going To Church In Times Of COVID

Legal Update + The GSA Travesty

Legal Challenges + Post Office Case

The Law Headed Into The Election

Versus The Post Office

Can Trump Steal The Election?

Blurring Public and Private Conduct

Trump Versus Mail Voting

Are Tax Returns Coming Soon?

On Flynn, Bolton, and Mary Trump

Easha's Back, To Talk Qualified Immunity and Police Reform

The Military in the U.S. and Proxy Voting in the House

What Will Happen To Michael Flynn?

Can The Presidential Election Be Cancelled?

Are Churches Being Discriminated Against?

Wisconsin Republicans Versus Elections

Trump vs. The Mainstream Media

Should Detainees Be Released?

Should Democrats Try And Pack The Court?

Lots To Discuss...

Enforce Your Own Subpoena!

State Immunity Under The VRA + Adios, Easha :(

Was Impeachment Good or Bad?

Vs. The Inaugural Committee, Plus Bolton Update

Who Are The Presidential Electors?

Trump vs. The Equal Rights Amendment

Amazon vs. Trump

The Senate As Impeachment Court

Year-End Mailbag

Method or Madness

We're Famous! And There Are Articles

Two Guns Cases, And More

What Is Bribery?

States vs. The Conscience Rule

Sanctions Versus DeVos

The Coming Exec Privilege Showdown

A Real Impeachment Episode

Trump's No Good, Very Bad Day

Uncle Charlie's Comity Hour

An Impeachment Primer

Can You Hear The Whistle Blowing?

What's Left of Asylum Law?

Watch Out, Watch List

Versus DeVos 2.0

Straight to the Supremes

We're Still Here! (Quick Update)

Trump v. Everyone Who Wants His Tax Returns

The Past and Future Of Gerrymandering