Yvonne Kason, NDE Awakening |592|

Dr. Yvonne Kason… spiritual transformative experience… near-death experience science… medical science confirms.

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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: on, this episode of Skeptiko, I keep asking the same question. Does your spiritually transformative experience matter? Well, does it, Jodie foster.

[clip] Wait a minute, lemme get this straight. You admit that you have absolutely no physical evidence to back up your story. Yes. You admit that you very well may have hallucinated this whole thing. Yes. You admit that if you were in our position, you would respond with exactly the same degree of incredulity and skepticism.

Yes. Then why don’t you simply withdraw your testimony and concede that this journey to the center of the galaxy, in fact, never took place?

Because I can’t,

I had an experience. I can’t. I can’t even explain it, but everything that I know as a human being, everything that I am tells me that it was real.

[00:01:00] Alex Tsakiris: Okay, well, does it Dr. Yvonne kason?

[00:01:00] Alex Tsakiris:   I don’t wanna hear about the different kinds of near death experiences. What I wanna know is what is going on in these extended realms?

[00:01:10] Alex Tsakiris: How are we supposed to understand them? Mm-hmm. And how are we supposed to understand the information that’s coming back from these extended realms?

[00:01:18] Yvonne Kason: . I’m offering a, a vocabulary as a starting point. I’m not saying it’s the be all and the end all. It’s just as I started as a young doctor because I started having, as you mentioned, my first NDE start when, when I was five, one, when I was 11.

[00:01:33] Yvonne Kason: You know, I started having out of body experiences. I started seeing spirits and ghosts when I was a child after my near-death experience, which we now know is a common after fact. And then my Kundalini awakening mystical experience, near-death experience. I now have words that I can use. To describe these and you at least have an idea, even if we don’t know what it is or what causes it, or we can argue how we interpret it, at least we now have a vocabulary that we can communicate about it.

[00:02:02] Alex Tsakiris: That first clip was from, believe it or not way back in 1997, the movie contact that was Jodie foster starring in that one. And the second clip was from today’s guest. Dr. Vaughn caisson. Another, a lot of people who are really going to not like this interview in a number of ways, particularly since I push on Dr. Yvonne caisson very hard at times, but how else are we going to get to the next level of this stuff? We can’t just keep talking about the love and light. Of this spiritually transformative experience without wondering.Whether there’s another side. Hope you enjoy the interview. Superintelligence super well-informed and qualified and accomplished. Person. Who I hold in very, very high regard. And I’m very appreciative for being on the show.

[00:02:55] Alex Tsakiris: . Welcome to Skeptiko, where we explore controversial science in spirituality.

[00:02:59] Alex Tsakiris: I’m joined today by dr. Ivonne Kason, , author of Soul Lessons from the Light, which you either just heard about or you’re gonna hear about it in a minute when we paste her clip in. And the subtitle is, how Spiritually Transformative Experiences Changed My Life. And the other book that we will talk about.

[00:03:21] Alex Tsakiris: Is touched by the light because Dr.