In this episode of Return to Heart, Jeff and Phil explore the meaning of attunement — the deep, relational connection that allows us to truly be seen and known. Through vivid metaphors, a humorous moment at the symphony, and heartfelt stories about parenting, marriage, and faith, this conversation shows how attunement brings restoration, combats loneliness, and invites us back to the heart. Whether you’re navigating family relationships, spiritual growth, or simply longing for deeper connection, this episode offers hope and practical wisdom for the journey.

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You’ll hear in this episode: 

• Why attunement is essential to human connection. 
• A touching story of Jeff and his grandson learning to sit with sadness. 
• How marriage reveals the challenges and beauty of vulnerability. 
• And, the role of faith in healing toxic shame and restoring relationships.