For this special episode, John and Tom sit down with Ben Lansing, the artist and creator behind the page @ourchurchspeaks. 

Ben is a talented artist who has used his skills to highlight prominent church figures from across the centuries on his IG page. 

During this conversation, Ben shares his wild and fascinating theological journey, and how his deep appreciation for church history became formative to his spiritual life.  

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