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102. The Colander List: What We Let Go to Make Room for Joy with Megan Leonard, part 2 of our 100 Episode Celebration


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In this second half of my 100th episode conversation with my friend and poet Megan Leonard, we talk about what happens when we finally start letting go of what’s not working.

We call it The Colander List — a way of noticing what’s naturally slipping through, what’s too heavy to hold, and what we might finally have permission to set down.

This conversation isn’t about getting more efficient or organized. It’s about capacity, trust, and the space we create when we stop trying to do it all.

Meg and I talk about:

🌀 What it looks like to stop chasing balance and start listening to yourself

🌿 The difference between quitting and releasing

💛 How friendship holds up a mirror when we’re growing

✨ And how joy shows up when we finally make room for it


These 100 episodes have been about showing up for honest, human conversations, the kind that remind us we don’t have to do it all to live fully.


Connect with Meg:

Instagram: @megan_leonardpoetry

Books: Book of Lullabies (Milk & Cake Press) and Larkspur Queen (Broadstone Books)

1:1 Writing Mentorship: DM Meg on Instagram; mention AND/BOTH for her 2025 pricing if you book your intake before Dec 31



Connect with Ashley:

Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.com

Podcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/

Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822

Instagram: @mydovetail.app

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

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AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been MissingBy Dr. Ashley Blackington