Jung at Harp | Episode 185:Embodied Music – When the Muse is YOU

Why listen? If you've ever longed to feel more freedom in your music—or in your life—this conversation invites you to experience creativity as something you are, not something you have to chase. Whether you're a musician, a dancer, or simply someone seeking a deeper connection to your own body and spirit, you'll discover how movement, play, and a simple musical foundation can open the door to authentic self-expression.

In this episode of Jung at Harp, harpist-composer Deborah Henson-Conant and Jungian psychoanalyst Kathleen Wiley explore what it means to embody music when you are the muse. Starting with the question of how to "release," they dive into a rich discussion of improvisation, physical movement, and the powerful link between body and psyche.

Deborah shares her journey of learning to improvise by trusting her body, describing how the harp's unique structure allows freedom once a basic progression is set. Kathleen connects this to Wilhelm Reich's insights on how emotions live in the body—and how letting go of muscular tension frees creative energy. Together they reflect on moments of flying, swimming, dancing, and the joy of being both leader and follower of one's own muse.

Through stories, laughter, and musical examples, they invite listeners to:

• Build a simple foundation, then grow functionality, fluency, and finally freedom in music—or any art.

• Release perfectionism and the "outer authority" of sheet music to find personal expression.

• Use movement—whether running, swimming, dancing, or playful harp gestures—to unlock creativity.

• Embrace the interplay of body and mind, where every note, gesture, and breath can carry inspiration.

Listen and join the conversation at JungAtHarp.com.