In this collaboration episode, host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today. 

00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions

01:45 Personal Connections to Malcolm X

04:52 Malcolm X's Influence and Evolution

08:48 Reflections on Malcolm X's Teachings

11:31 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Relevance

19:39 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility

29:19 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism

46:17 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas

48:08 Exploring Malcolm X's Intersectional Analysis

48:47 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey

50:45 Decolonization and Internationalism

52:30 Contextualizing Malcolm X's Strategies

54:34 Malcolm X's Methodology and Ethics

58:38 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Implications

01:18:09 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique

01:29:20 Final Reflections on Malcolm X's Influence

Mohamed :

Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He's a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022).  His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011. 

substack: https://drmohamedabdou.substack.com/

website: ⁠mabdou.net⁠. 

Twitter: @minuetinGmajor

 Instagram: @slightlydrifting

israa’ :

israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.

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Dugout

The Dugout is a Black anarchist podcast rooted in political education, decolonial thought/praxis, and deep community study. We tell stories, break down systems, and honor the voices of those building liberation from below. From interviews with Black Panthers and movement elders to media critiques and abolitionist strategy, each episode is a living contribution to Black radical traditions.

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