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What happens when the youngest hedge fund partner in history is told he’ll be blind by 30? Jason Karp’s story is one of resilience, transformation, and purpose. In this powerful conversation, Jason reveals how he reversed an “incurable” eye disease through ancestral diet and lifestyle changes, built the wellness-driven Hu Chocolate brand that became a household name, and walked away from many millions on Wall Street in search of meaning. We dive deep into the U.S. food system crisis, why America is the sickest it has ever been, and what we can learn from Blue Zones and ancestral living. Jason also shares candid insights on the promise and peril of AI, the Age of Abundance for All, and why love must conquer fear if humanity is to survive its greatest test.
What you’ll hear in this episode:
- Jason’s incredible career and healing his blindness
- Healing through food and intuition
- Building Hu Chocolate and redefining clean eating
- Choosing meaning over money and people over profits
- The sickness of the US food system vs. Europe’s
- AI, abundance, and humanity’s greatest test
About Love Conquers Fear:
In an era of exponentially evolving AI and robotics, one question looms: Will humanity make it? Love Conquers Fear is where leadership meets love, technology serves humanity, and vision becomes action. Host, Brett Alexander Hurt, tech entrepreneur and investor, sits down with some of the world’s most influential people to ask: Will we unite to create the Age of Abundance for All? These conversations are calls to action, awakening leaders everywhere to rise and help humanity choose the Light.
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretthurt/
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Medium: https://databrett.medium.com
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Substack: https://brettahurt.substack.com/
Love Conquers Fear on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LoveConquersFear2025
Love Conquers Fear on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6wngdSw7FmdibLC9mu300q
Love Conquers Fear on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-conquers-fear/id1841734456
About Jason Karp:
Jason H. Karp is the Founder & CEO of HumanCo, a holding company that builds and invests in health and sustainability brands. He is also the co-founder of Hu Kitchen/Hu Chocolate, which was acquired by Mondelez. Previously, Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, a hedge fund that managed over $4 billion before he retired to focus on health and wellness. His career shift was inspired by his own journey of reversing multiple autoimmune conditions and a degenerative eye disease through diet and lifestyle changes.
Jason Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humankarp/
Jason on X: https://x.com/humankarp
Timestamps:
00:00 - Preview
01:16 - Intro & Jason Karp welcome
03:15 - Early life & Wharton years
04:01 - Hedge fund career & early machine learning
06:40 - Health collapse: degenerative eye disease
09:00 - Ancestral wisdom: Indigenous diets, Blue Zones, and lifestyle changes
13:28 - “That’s impossible” - curing the incurable
18:16 - Hu origin - “Get Back to Human”
25:14 - Chocolate boom → Whole Foods & Hu expansion
28:00 - Scale, bidding war, and bittersweet exit
30:04 - Hedge fund success → burnout & retirement
36:25 - His move to Austin and HumanCo (including True Food Kitchen)
38:00 - The metacrisis of physical, mental, and planetary health
39:00 - How many harmful chemicals are added to our food
45:20 - 5 trillion dollar healthcare costs
48:50 - The possibility of the Age of Abundance for All
52:00 - AI for bad
56:45 - The dot-com bubble -> the $2.7 trillion AI bubble?
1:02:30 - Our greatest test in human history -> the merging of Heaven and Earth
1:04:05 - How we are poisoning ourselves through social media
1:13:00 - Purpose, soul, and consciousness
1:21:09 - Awakening leaders
1:31:18 - Reincarnation & altered states research
1:34:24 - AI and the coming explosion of material science → decoding psychedelics to wake up
By Brett Alexander Hurt and guestsWhat happens when the youngest hedge fund partner in history is told he’ll be blind by 30? Jason Karp’s story is one of resilience, transformation, and purpose. In this powerful conversation, Jason reveals how he reversed an “incurable” eye disease through ancestral diet and lifestyle changes, built the wellness-driven Hu Chocolate brand that became a household name, and walked away from many millions on Wall Street in search of meaning. We dive deep into the U.S. food system crisis, why America is the sickest it has ever been, and what we can learn from Blue Zones and ancestral living. Jason also shares candid insights on the promise and peril of AI, the Age of Abundance for All, and why love must conquer fear if humanity is to survive its greatest test.
What you’ll hear in this episode:
- Jason’s incredible career and healing his blindness
- Healing through food and intuition
- Building Hu Chocolate and redefining clean eating
- Choosing meaning over money and people over profits
- The sickness of the US food system vs. Europe’s
- AI, abundance, and humanity’s greatest test
About Love Conquers Fear:
In an era of exponentially evolving AI and robotics, one question looms: Will humanity make it? Love Conquers Fear is where leadership meets love, technology serves humanity, and vision becomes action. Host, Brett Alexander Hurt, tech entrepreneur and investor, sits down with some of the world’s most influential people to ask: Will we unite to create the Age of Abundance for All? These conversations are calls to action, awakening leaders everywhere to rise and help humanity choose the Light.
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretthurt/
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Medium: https://databrett.medium.com
Follow Brett Alexander Hurt on Substack: https://brettahurt.substack.com/
Love Conquers Fear on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LoveConquersFear2025
Love Conquers Fear on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6wngdSw7FmdibLC9mu300q
Love Conquers Fear on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-conquers-fear/id1841734456
About Jason Karp:
Jason H. Karp is the Founder & CEO of HumanCo, a holding company that builds and invests in health and sustainability brands. He is also the co-founder of Hu Kitchen/Hu Chocolate, which was acquired by Mondelez. Previously, Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, a hedge fund that managed over $4 billion before he retired to focus on health and wellness. His career shift was inspired by his own journey of reversing multiple autoimmune conditions and a degenerative eye disease through diet and lifestyle changes.
Jason Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/humankarp/
Jason on X: https://x.com/humankarp
Timestamps:
00:00 - Preview
01:16 - Intro & Jason Karp welcome
03:15 - Early life & Wharton years
04:01 - Hedge fund career & early machine learning
06:40 - Health collapse: degenerative eye disease
09:00 - Ancestral wisdom: Indigenous diets, Blue Zones, and lifestyle changes
13:28 - “That’s impossible” - curing the incurable
18:16 - Hu origin - “Get Back to Human”
25:14 - Chocolate boom → Whole Foods & Hu expansion
28:00 - Scale, bidding war, and bittersweet exit
30:04 - Hedge fund success → burnout & retirement
36:25 - His move to Austin and HumanCo (including True Food Kitchen)
38:00 - The metacrisis of physical, mental, and planetary health
39:00 - How many harmful chemicals are added to our food
45:20 - 5 trillion dollar healthcare costs
48:50 - The possibility of the Age of Abundance for All
52:00 - AI for bad
56:45 - The dot-com bubble -> the $2.7 trillion AI bubble?
1:02:30 - Our greatest test in human history -> the merging of Heaven and Earth
1:04:05 - How we are poisoning ourselves through social media
1:13:00 - Purpose, soul, and consciousness
1:21:09 - Awakening leaders
1:31:18 - Reincarnation & altered states research
1:34:24 - AI and the coming explosion of material science → decoding psychedelics to wake up