It's fair to say that life very rarely goes the way you think it will. So what's different in our lives, and what went to plan (if anything)? Where did we think we'd be, by now – and where, exactly, are we? That's what we're talking about in this episode of Not Without My Sister, the podcast Mary Kate and Ashley just WISH they'd come up with.

You can follow Rosemary on Instagram @rosemarymaccabe; Beatrice is @beatricemaccabe and you’ll find us both on the podcast Instagram @notwithoutmysister. Our Facebook page is here! For show notes, sporadic blog posts and assorted random things associated with the podcast, check out our website, notwithoutmysis.com. Want to get in touch? Email us on [email protected].

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Not Without My Sister is presented by sisters Beatrice Mac Cabe and Rosemary Mac Cabe, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Our producer is Liam Geraghty. Sound editing and original music by Don Kirkland. Original illustration by Lindsay Neilson.

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