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528: How to have a more resilient brain | Sue Varma, M.D., board-certified psychiatrist


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“You don't have to stop. Sometimes you just need to pause, recalibrate, and reassess what the options are," says Sue Varma, M.D.

Sue, a board-certified psychiatrist, joins us to discuss how to cultivate incredible resilience and growth, plus:

- What is practical optimism? (~00:04)

- How to approach circumstances you have no control over (~03:41)

- The role of hope & faith (~06:42)

- Why toxic positivity sets us up for failure (~08:35)

- Sue’s take on manifestation (~10:06)

- The power of being alone, not lonely (~14:06)

- The 8 pillars of practical optimism (~16:23)

- Why we should all be social snacking (~22:06)

- What happens when we don’t feel seen (~26:07)

- How to identify your purpose (~30:03)

- How to measure your level of optimism (~31:45)

- How much of the population is actually optimistic? (~36:38)

- Sue’s 4 M’s of mental health (~39:37)

- What to do when you start to negatively spiral (~42:55)

- How to start a worry diary (~45:11)

- Why women report higher stress levels (~46:17)

- The optimistic future of women’s sports (~48:57)

- How optimism leads to exceptional longevity (~52:51)


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Referenced in the episode:

- Sue's book, Practical Optimism: The Art, Science, and Practice of Exceptional Well-Being

- mbg Podcast episode #, with Michael Easter

- A study on mild electric shock vs. being alone

- Research on conversations with strangers & happiness

- A study showing 25% of optimism is genetic

- A NYT article about Sue's salsa dancing

- Harvard adult development study on relationships & health


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