Join Avi as he interviews Omer Bartov, the Dean's Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University. Bartov is both an Israeli and a Zionist, and one of the leading academic voices arguing that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza. They discuss whether Israel's conduct in Gaza is genocidal, strategies to prevent genocide, and what it means to be Zionist at a time when Israel is committing such unspeakable acts.

Some of Omer Bartov's Work:

Infamous NYT article making the case that Israel is committing genocide: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html

Pre-Order his new book on where Zionism went wrong: https://www.amazon.com/Israel-What-Wrong-Omer-Bartov/dp/0374618186/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=5hlOk&content-id=amzn1.sym.0fb2cce1-1ca4-439a-844b-8ad0b1fb77f7&pf_rd_p=0fb2cce1-1ca4-439a-844b-8ad0b1fb77f7&pf_rd_r=132-9869202-7528336&pd_rd_wg=CLJn0&pd_rd_r=bfbfd8ad-96ca-42e1-905b-56d50979acd6&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk