Nicole sits down for a cup of tea with Stephen Heal after his fantastic Osberton 7-year-old win.

Listen to find out what top riders he has worked with at the start of his career and how he found his young horse champion.

This show is very kindly supported by NAF  

If you want to have a cuppa with another top-class rider, click below:

Caroline Harris 

Tom Rowland 

Laura Collett