In this episode, Manuel and Rod Garratt discuss the evolution of digital money, focusing on central bank digital currencies (CBDCs), stablecoins, and tokenized deposits. Rod shares his journey into the world of digital currencies, starting from his time at the New York Fed and his involvement in Project Jasper. The conversation delves into the distinctions between wholesale and retail CBDCs, the implications of privacy, and the political landscape surrounding these innovations. They also explore the future of tokenized deposits and deposit tokens, the role of stablecoins, and the potential for collaboration between different forms of payment systems – bearer-like money forms and account-based forms of money.

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