In this episode, I continue our family study with Olivia and Joe; and we ask Olivia to share her perspective on remote learning. In this conversation, Olivia shares: ✅What was hardest for her in making a transition from elementary school through middle school during the pandemic. ✅What she missed the most about being in school. ✅What kinds of support she needed from the adults in her life during online learning and school in general. By the time you're listening to this episode, your kids may be close to in-person learning if they aren't fully doing it already; but this interview is still packed with great insight for any parent who wants to know about how to better support kids during the transition from elementary school to secondary school. If you’re a parent who wants to set your kids up for success as adults, then then you’re going to love my free parent guide, which I mentioned in this episode. In this guide, I share the set of skills that kids need in order to stay organized, focused, and motivated during their day-to-day tasks like chores and homework. You can sign up for the guide here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/parentguide The De Facto Leaders podcast was formerly the “Are they 18 yet?®” podcast. As of November 2022, the name of the show has changed, and we’ve shifted from a focus on parenting to a focus on supporting clinicians and educators to design effective services for kids (but parents are still welcome to listen). Episodes published before November 24, 2022 will still contain some of our old branding.