All the Presidents' Lawyers

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All presidents have legal issues. Some have more than others. A weekly conversation about the law, executive power, and all the presidents' lawyers, good and bad.

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The end of the road, for now

11.25.2021

It’s been more than three years since Josh Barro and Ken White started All The President’s Lawyers (the first name of this show) to explore the legal problems of then-President Donald Trump, and wow, did he have legal problems. He ...

All the Presidents' Lawyers episodes:

11.25.2021 The end of the road, for now It’s been more than three years since Josh Barro and Ken White started All The President’s Lawyers (the first name of this show) to explore the legal problems of then-President Donald Trump, and wow, did he have legal problems. He ...
11.17.2021 Summer’s over Just 22 days after Steve Bannon was referred to the Department of Justice for contempt of Congress, we have an indictment. Is that a long time? No, very much not. Ken says that’s the speed you’d expect for someone who’s ...
11.10.2021 Another indictment from Durham There’s been another indictment in special prosecutor John Durham’s investigation of the investigation into links between Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and Russia. It’s another indictment for false statements to federal officials, this time of Igor Danchenko, a Russian national and ...
11.03.2021 Low-hanging fruit We now know which documents former President Trump is seeking to block from the January 6 select committee: the White House daily diary, which would show his movements and meetings; phone records and records of his senior staff, and a ...
10.27.2021 Guilty. Appealing. Talking. Referred for contempt. This week, Josh Barro and Ken White catch up on a few familiar characters and tie up some loose threads. Lev Parnas, former associate of Rudy Giuliani: convicted of six counts of charges related to funneling and concealing political contributions. ...
10.20.2021 Testing the boundaries of executive privilege Former President Trump has sued the National Archives and the chairman of the January 6 investigating committee, Congressman Bennie Thompson, to try to prevent the disclosure of White House papers, records and communications up to and during the riot. He’s ...
10.13.2021 Is a plea bargain a good deal? This is a special episode of All the Presidents’ Lawyers with Carissa Byrne Hessick, professor of law at the University of North Carolina. As we’ve discussed previously on the show, some federal judges have been wondering (sometimes aloud, in their ...
10.06.2021 What is a state actor? Former President Donald Trump has sued Twitter trying to get back on the platform. His suit says Twitter violated his First Amendment rights and that they broke a new Florida law that purports to prohibit social media companies from being ...
09.29.2021 Trump Derangement Syndrome with David Lat What is ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’? It’s a condition that afflicts conservatives and liberals alike – and lawyers in particular. This week, Ken White and special guest David Lat discuss the attorneys that, uh, have gone astray defending Donald Trump. Ken ...
09.23.2021 An unusual indictment, an unusual memo John Durham, the former US attorney who was appointed special counsel to investigate the origins of the investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign and its alleged connections to Russia, has turned an indictment. A grand jury has indicted Michael Sussmann, ...
09.15.2021 Fate of the Henchman There’s been a lack of thumb-headed henchmen news on the show for a bit… so this week, Ken and Josh check in on one. Igor Fruman, a sometime associate of Rudy Giuliani, has pleaded guilty to one count of soliciting ...
09.09.2021 Juniors Trump Organization employee Matthew Calamari Jr. testified last week before the New York grand jury that’s looking into the financial practices of the Trump Organization. It’s the same grand jury that indicted then-Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg a few months ...
09.01.2021 What happens when your lawyer is MIA What happens when you’re facing federal charges connected to the Jan. 6 insurrection and your lawyer….goes missing? And their associate, who has been showing up in court, is not a licensed attorney and is facing felony indictments? Yikes. That’s the ...
08.25.2021 Mistrial! It’s a big week for Michael Avenatti. A mistrial! Judge Selna ruled that the government had withheld financial evidence they should’ve made available to Avenatti as he defended himself in the case where he was being tried for embezzling funds ...
08.18.2021 Jeffrey Rosen and Jeffrey Clark Former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen testified about what happened between him, Donald Trump, and former acting head of DOJ Civil Division Jeffrey Clark in a closed session with the DOJ Inspector General and the Senate Judiciary Committee. TL:DR and ...
08.11.2021 Seven months and 600+ people charged This week, we’re bringing on special guest Ryan J. Reilly, senior justice reporter at HuffPost, while Ken enjoys a deserved vacation. We’ve followed and referenced Ryan’s reporting on prosecutions related to the Capitol riot for the past seven months and ...
08.05.2021 Tax returns return The Biden administration said this week that the House Ways and Means Committee can have access to former President Trump’s tax returns. The committee says it wants the returns as part of an ongoing investigation into how the IRS audits ...
07.28.2021 DOJ threads the needle Michael Avenatti is one week into representing himself in federal court in Southern California, where he is accused of stealing funds from his client. Is he doing a good job lawyering for himself? And is a juror in the trial ...
07.21.2021 A pro se pro? This week, Michael Avenatti told a federal district judge in California that he would like to represent himself in his second of three criminal trials, in which he is charged with stealing millions from his clients’ settlements. There are a ...
07.14.2021 An expensive defense Allen Weisselberg is no longer in executive positions with the Trump Organization and its subsidiaries. Does this signal anything about the relationship between the former CFO and the company? Weisselberg’s defense is going to be very, very expensive. How expensive? ...
07.02.2021 BONUS: Josh and Ken talk about the criminal indictments against Allen Weisselberg and the Trump Organization Surprise episode! Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the unsealed indictments of the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg. They’re alleged to have engaged in a fifteen-year tax fraud scheme that protected Weisselberg and other Trump ...
07.01.2021 The ATPL XL Ask Us Anything Show As of Wednesday morning, there have been no charges yet against the Trump Organization or any of its senior officials. The Wall Street Journal reported that charges for tax related crimes are expected Thursday for the organization and its CFO, ...
06.24.2021 "What the Fuks?" The first Capitol riot defendant received her sentence today, more than six months after the insurrection. Ken White and Josh Barro analyze the sentencing memos from the woman’s lawyer and the government. Both agreed that a lenient sentence with no ...
06.16.2021 “Pure insanity” It’s been an interesting week for Donald Trump’s Department of Justice, despite the fact that Donald Trump isn’t president anymore. This week, we saw communications from Trump administration officials pressuring people in the Department of Justice to investigate increasingly erratic ...
06.10.2021 A Trump legal problem becomes a Biden administration problem Before the election, the Department of Justice under President Trump was at work defending him in E. Jean Carroll’s defamation suit, arguing that when Trump denied Carroll’s accusation that he had raped her, he did so in his official capacity ...
06.02.2021 Michael Flynn and Myanmar Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn made some news this week at a rally when he seemed to say a coup like the one in Myanmar earlier this year should happen in the United States. Flynn denied saying this, even ...
05.26.2021 Blast from the past Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance has empaneled a special grand jury that is expected to decide whether to indict former President Donald Trump, his business, or his business associates. It could be a few months before we know anything, or ...
05.20.2021 This podcast is no longer purely civil in nature We know that allies of Rudy Giuliani have been pushing for former President Trump to pay his legal fees or to pay him so he can pay his legal fees. But there’s another urgent ask that The Daily Beast reports ...
05.12.2021 Hushing the hush payments Do you remember Essential Consultants, LLC? Michael Cohen’s company established to make hush payments to Stephanie Clifford (a.k.a. Stormy Daniels) and Karen MacDougal to stop them from publicly disclosing their affairs with Donald Trump before the 2016 election. Michael Cohen ...
05.06.2021 The Rudy raid On a typical Wednesday, just hours after Josh Barro and Ken White recorded an episode to capture the news of the week, federal investigators executed a search warrant at Rudy Giuliani’s home and office, confiscating electronic devices, because of course ...
04.29.2021 Destroying phone now In the weeks after the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, the Department of Justice came up with a plan to cast a wide net in its investigation. This would have involved investigating organizers and others who contributed to the event, ...
04.22.2021 The Chauvin verdict We got a remarkably rapid guilty verdict in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chuavin this Tuesday, convicted of counts including second degree unintentional murder. Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the verdict plus comments from President ...
04.15.2021 A matter of public concern Josh Barro and Ken White discuss the different way Rudy Giuliani is responding to Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation lawsuit against him. Why might he have taken a different approach from Sidney Powell? Plus: former Rep. Katie Hill sued the Daily ...
04.07.2021 Gaetzgate Josh Barro and Ken White discuss reports of a federal investigation into Congressman Matt Gaetz. What are the legal issues here? Was it smart for Gaetz to give a prime time interview about it on television? And why was this ...
03.31.2021 Relationship to the truth For the past three years, All The Presidents’ Lawyers has focused a lot on defamation cases, and there’s an obvious reason for that: former President Trump has been (and still is) the target of defamation cases and he has also ...
03.25.2021 Loose lips Michael Sherwin, who was the acting U.S. attorney in Washington overseeing the prosecution of Capitol rioters, gave a revealing interview to 60 Minutes this week. Its ripple effects in courtrooms and at the Department of Justice were almost immediate. Josh ...
03.18.2021 Is approximately half good enough? Government officials believe about 800 rioters entered the building on January 6. About 300 people have been charged and the government expects to charge at least 100 more, according to a recent filing. Is that...good enough? Is that enough for ...
03.11.2021 Cease and desist Josh Barro and Ken White talk about former President Trump’s efforts to keep Republican groups from using his image to fundraise. Were his cease-and-desist letters performative, or does he actually have a legal argument that his name and image can’t ...
03.04.2021 Could another campaign help Trump with some of his legal problems? Former President Trump spoke at CPAC this past weekend, and it got some people talking (apparently, some of Trump’s advisers included): if he were to run for office again, would it help him with some of his legal issues? Would ...
02.25.2021 SCOTUS and the subpoena The Supreme Court finally declined to block the Manhattan District Attorney’s subpoena for financial records related to Donald Trump and the Trump Organization from his accountants at Mazars LLP. This subpoena is commonly described in the press as giving the ...
02.17.2021 The end of impeachment, but not the end of legal exposure Former President Trump was acquitted over the weekend in his second impeachment trial. A record seven members of his own party voted to convict him but that wasn’t enough to bar Trump from seeking future office. How strong was the ...
02.11.2021 First impressions of the second impeachment Josh Barro and Ken White talk about President Trump’s lawyers’ first day of impeachment arguments, and more on the legal cases of those arrested during the riot. President Biden seeking the resignation of all Trump-appointed US Attorneys (except one), and ...
02.04.2021 When you’re surprised anyone is surprised Last week, Josh Barro and Ken White talked about the very normal legal team defending President Trump in his impeachment trial. Well, one week later, the entire team is gone and a new set of lawyers has come in. So, ...
01.28.2021 Is it actually a problem to charge everyone who illegally entered the Capitol? One week since he took office, President Biden’s got a legal problem. Josh Barro and Ken White talk about the Texas judge who ordered a temporary stop to Biden’s executive order for a 100-day moratorium on deportations. It’s pretty similar ...
01.20.2021 Last call for pardons As President Trump was about to walk out of the White House for the last time, he made some final pardons. Ken White and Josh Barro talk about who got one in the final days of the Trump presidency, who ...
01.14.2021 Insurrection and impeachment One week after a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol, interrupting the congressional proceeding that affirmed Joe Biden’s defeat of President Trump, officials from the FBI and the Department of Justice have made some arrests and have promised more are ...
01.06.2021 The phone call to Georgia On Saturday, President Trump called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and urged him to revise Georgia’s presidential election result so he would be the winner. He told Raffensperger he only needed to find about 12,000 votes. The call went ...
12.22.2020 The Show To End 2020 The Trump administration has been a remarkable time for lawyers. Often, not remarkable in a good way. Ken and Josh talk about a completely nuts meeting at the White House on Friday night in which Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani and ...
12.16.2020 Bye Barr Attorney General Bill Barr is leaving the administration a few days before Christmas. Is he being fired for doing the job he was supposed to do? And who is Jeffrey Rosen, who will serve as acting attorney general after Barr ...
12.10.2020 Knocking at the Supreme Court’s door We’ve reached the stage in the legal efforts by President Trump’s allies to contest the election results where the Supreme Court could opt to get involved, but they’re not getting involved. Congressman Mike Kelly sought an injunction from the Supreme ...

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All the Presidents' Lawyers episodes:

The end of the road, for now

Summer’s over

Another indictment from Durham

Low-hanging fruit

Guilty. Appealing. Talking. Referred for contempt.

Testing the boundaries of executive privilege

Is a plea bargain a good deal?

What is a state actor?

Trump Derangement Syndrome with David Lat

An unusual indictment, an unusual memo

Fate of the Henchman

Juniors

What happens when your lawyer is MIA

Mistrial!

Jeffrey Rosen and Jeffrey Clark

Seven months and 600+ people charged

Tax returns return

DOJ threads the needle

A pro se pro?

An expensive defense

BONUS: Josh and Ken talk about the criminal indictments against Allen Weisselberg and the Trump Organization

The ATPL XL Ask Us Anything Show

"What the Fuks?"

“Pure insanity”

A Trump legal problem becomes a Biden administration problem

Michael Flynn and Myanmar

Blast from the past

This podcast is no longer purely civil in nature

Hushing the hush payments

The Rudy raid

Destroying phone now

The Chauvin verdict

A matter of public concern

Gaetzgate

Relationship to the truth

Loose lips

Is approximately half good enough?

Cease and desist

Could another campaign help Trump with some of his legal problems?

SCOTUS and the subpoena

The end of impeachment, but not the end of legal exposure

First impressions of the second impeachment

When you’re surprised anyone is surprised

Is it actually a problem to charge everyone who illegally entered the Capitol?

Last call for pardons

Insurrection and impeachment

The phone call to Georgia

The Show To End 2020

Bye Barr

Knocking at the Supreme Court’s door

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