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05.31.2022 - By Alex TsakirisPlay

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[00:00:00] Alex Tsakiris: This episode of skeptiko A show about making our puzzle pieces fit.

[00:00:08] Andy Rouse: It’s almost like a reflection in the external world from an internal experience. I’ve heard many people. And I resonate with this, that when they have psychedelic experiences or near death experiences, , it almost feels like they’re given this internal map or this internal puzzle. And they want to find all the pieces out here that match up with that internal puzzle.

[00:00:29] Alex Tsakiris: That’s Andy Rouse from the deep shear podcast. I have a great chat coming up with him. We did kind of a swap cast thing and I thought it was great. So we’re going to do it again. I think we left some really intriguing, loose ends that we’ll might tie up in the future.

But in the meantime we rolled right. Into this one. So I don’t think much of an introduction is necessary. Here we go. Andy, from deep shear podcast.

[00:00:59] Alex Tsakiris: I’m probably going to rattle your cage at some point. Maybe you’ll rattle mine. But what I really hope is that you’ll kind of fill in some gaps for me because

[00:01:07] Andy Rouse: this is the versa, vice versa, my friend. So

[00:01:11] Alex Tsakiris: I sent you this survey in you are nice enough to fill it out in your answers are quite brilliant. And I’m not just saying that I very, very deep. I like man, I knew I was going to like this guy.

Yeah.

[00:01:24] Andy Rouse: Oh, I’ve been thinking about having this conversation with you for quite a while, because out of the plethora of amazing people that we all get to talk to in this community, what I really admire about you is your drive to you. Just never let anybody off the hook about certain things.

And I love that because I tend to be a little non-confrontational and I need a little bit of influence to really get my confidence about me and be like, Hey, listen, I need to, I need to ask that again because you’re still really not answering my question. You know what I mean? And I really admire that about you.

[00:02:01] Alex Tsakiris: Well, I do know what you mean, but it’s, it’s tricky, isn’t it? Because.

[00:02:05] Andy Rouse: Yeah, you don’t want to cut off a conversation entirely. You don’t want to like alienates someone. You don’t want to be a prick, but sometimes that’s what’s needed. Right. I listened to a great conversation that you had. Well, it was starting to be a great conversation from like, man, this was back in like 2014, I think with that neurobiologist, what was her name?

I can’t remember off the top of my head, but she, uh, made a million excuses how nothing was working and she just had to cut off the conversation. And you were drilling her, you were quoting her own book and she couldn’t back up what she was claiming. It was, it was just classic.

[00:02:43] Alex Tsakiris: Well, there’s so many jumping off points for that, you know, because like one of the things about like that interview and what people have kind of said about skeptical and there is some truth to it because it always happens for all of us, you know, it’s like, Hey, the guys on my team,

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