Agents and Engineers

Are We All Managers Now?

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Dan, Angie, and Demetrios explore how the latest frontier models have turned software engineering into something closer to managing a team of agents, and why governance, tokenomics, and design now matter more than typing code.

Guests

Angie Jones
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Demetrios Brinkman
- Website
- LinkedIn

Links from the show
- Agentic AI Foundation (AAIF)
- AAIF Ambassador Program
- AGNTCon San Jose

Episode Deep Dive

Chapters

  • (00:00) - Welcome and introductions
  • (01:49) - Inside the Agentic AI Foundation and the ambassador program
  • (03:38) - A global slate of events and meetups
  • (07:13) - What engineers are doing differently than six months ago
  • (10:16) - Agentic engineering at enterprise scale and cloud workers
  • (12:32) - Governance, the harness, and sandboxes
  • (15:10) - Do we still need managers and the human 'glue'?
  • (21:14) - The bill comes due: AI tool budgets
  • (23:39) - Tokens aren't velocity and the 'AI champions' experiment
  • (28:25) - Front-loading design versus vibe coding
  • (30:15) - RPI and Codex as co-reviewer
  • (34:15) - Adversarial review, Council of Mine, and Superpowers
  • (39:34) - Robo Rev and the QA-agent pattern
  • (42:58) - Agents, data analysis, and specifying the problem
  • (46:33) - Are we all managers now?
  • (48:00) - The Caveman skill and the limits of saving tokens
  • (51:49) - Naming agents, Codex pets, and Quakpit
  • (56:16) - Managing agents versus the joy of writing code
  • (01:02:07) - Democratizing building and the falling price of software

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