In this episode, hosts Jeff and Carol talk to Kim Janey, former mayor of Boston and now president and CEO of EMPath. This Boston-based organization transforms people’s lives by helping them move out of poverty and to provide other institutions with the tools to systematically do the same.

Then we present a session between Lee Pelton and Darrick Hamilton from EMPath's "Disrupting Poverty" conference, which took place in March 2024.

For more detailed show notes and a full transcript, see the Podcast page on the Invisible Americans website.

The Invisible Americans Podcast is a non-profit communications organization. Its mission is to end child poverty. The podcast is hosted by Co-Presidents Jeff Madrick and Carol Jenkins.

Music for this and all episodes is provided by Bridget St. John. Audio editing by Sylvester P. Lukasiewicz. Show notes and transcript by Amy Yoder.