Tom and Nate discuss a few core topics of the show. First, we touch base on the core of the podcast -- the difference between empirical science, alchemy, and magic. Next, we explain some of our deeper understandings of AI safety as a field, then that leads into a discussion of what RLHF means.

Lot's of links to share this time:

• Tom's coverage on alchemy in VentureBeat, and an active thread on Twitter.
• As Above, So Below: a calling of alchemy,
• A NeurIPs test of time award speech on alchemy,
• A bizarre Facebook debate between Yoshua Bengio and Stuart Russell,

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