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Being and Becoming: One Woman's Realization of I Am That


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Being and Becoming — A Conversation with Shirley Elias

In this deeply moving episode of the Wholeness Wisdom Podcast, we sit down with poet, psychotherapist, and shining light Shirley Elias to explore what it means to wake up to our essential nature.

At 87, Shirley speaks with the clarity and depth of someone who has not only glimpsed the vastness of reality, but knows it. She recounts the moment of her spontaneous realization of I Am That—a stunning shift that redefined her experience, dissolved layers of false identity, and revealed a knowing that continues to be shared in her published works.

This moment of clarity that "answered every question I had been asking for 50 years", was not the end. In this conversation, we explore:

  • What happened next—what dissolved, what remained, and what continues to arise

  • Her recently published book of poetry, QuantaEssence, depicting the 7 years following her realization
  • Her ongoing inquiry into the subtle layers of personality and energy

  • The "dark night of the soul" and how it shaped her

  • How her relationship with a psychoanalyst brought emotional wisdom and the necessity of inner work

  • The power of meditation and Buddhist principles in anchoring her realization

  • The books that quietly opened doors long before she knew where they led

  • And an unpublished poem that expounds on her insight with stunning voice and momentum

On the Wholeness Wisdom Podcast, we explore not just the insight—but the integration of waking up to Self. What does it look like to live awake, in a body, in this society, with humility, patience, honesty and action? What tools help us remain open, responsive, and whole?

Whether you're on the path of self-inquiry, awakening, or simply curious about the nature of being, may Shirley's presence be a ray of light shining directly into your heart. Shirley Elias Books: QuantaEssence Book Sex, Soul, and Psyche Chogyam Trungpa Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism The Essence of Spiritual Instruction, Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi The Essence of Spiritual Instruction Wholeness Wisdom Integration work one-on-one https://www.wholenesswisdom.com Insight Timer Wholeness Wisdom: Free Meditations

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