#11 BIG Podcast - “Security of Borders and Security of Transnational Flows” - With: Alan Bersin – Executive Chairman of Altana AI and former U.S. Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection

08.01.2022 - By Borders in Globalization Podcast

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Transnational flows cross borders and reveal national and international security issues. New technologies such as BIG DATA, artificial intelligence and Machine Learning are mobilized to secure the movement and circulation of data, goods and people. Border lines are no longer the main place for checks and controls. It is this paradigm shift in the analysis and governance of borders that is the subject of our discussion with Alan D. Bersin.
Les flux transnationaux traversent les frontières et révèlent des enjeux de sécurité nationale et internationale. Les nouvelles technologies comme le BIG DATA, l’intelligence artificielle et le Machine Learning sont mobilisées pour sécuriser les mouvements et la circulation des données, des biens et des personnes. Les lignes-frontières ne sont plus le lieu principal des contrôles. C’est ce changement de paradigme dans l’analyse et la gouvernance des frontières qui fait l’objet de notre discussion avec Alan D. Bersin.
Time Markers: 
0:00 Context of the discussion today: Borders, Transnational Flows and Global Security
3:22 Definition of the "boundary" object
5:32 Boundary-line seem outdated?
10:12 Functions of Borders: Control, Security and Defense
13:59 Understanding the combination of Lines and Flows
15:39 Borders as last lines of defense; Borders are pushed out and externalized
19:58 Importance of network and the transnational networks
22:54 What does “Smart Border” means?
26:50 Interests of artificial intelligence and machine learning in transboundary risk management
36:46 Effects of “slowbalization”?
42:27 More militarization in the World?
49:44 Usefulness of Border Studies for understanding the current Period of Transformation

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