Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews returning guest Robyn Brickel, LMFT about Top-Down and Bottom-Up psychotherapy methods for trauma. In this conversation, Laura and Robyn described what the terms "Top Down" and "Bottom-Up" mean in reference to trauma therapy; how each type of trauma therapy can help trauma survivors; and what types of therapies fit into each category. Robyn Brickel, MA, LMFT, is the founder and clinical director of Brickel and Associates, LLC in Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia. She and her team bring a strengths-based, trauma-informed, systems approach to the treatment of mood disorders, addiction, trauma, self-harm, eating disorders, perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, and other mental health conditions. She is deeply committed to clinical practice, professional education and better public awareness of mental health issues. Robyn is a writer who regularly blogs about trauma and trauma-informed care. RESOURCES: Link to Robyn Brickel's previous Therapy Chat Interview,  Signs You Might Be A Trauma Survivor and Need More Self Care. Thank you to this week's sponsors! Sunset Lake CBD is created on a small farm outside of Burlington, Vermont that is a producer for Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.  Sunset Lake CBD customers support regenerative agriculture that preserves the health of the land and creates meaningful employment in the community. Farm workers are paid a living wage, and employees own the majority of the company. Therapy Chat listeners, get 20% off your entire order of Sunset Lake CBD products using promo code CHAT at www.sunsetlakecbd.com.  Help us make Trauma Therapist Network the best resource it can be! Send a message about resources you think should be included in the Trauma Therapist Network Site using the form on this page. Looking for a trauma therapist or are you a trauma therapist wanting to join the network? Check it out at: www.traumatherapistnetwork.com! Therapy Chat and Trauma Chat podcasts are also found on the site. Follow Therapy Chat on Instagram Follow Trauma Chat on Instagram Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio

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294: Bottom-Up + Top-Down Psychotherapy Methods For Trauma with Robyn Brickel

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C, Psychotherapist, Burnout Prevention Consultant and Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator interviews guests to discuss holistic and alternative approaches used in psychotherapy, counseling, coaching and healing sessions. Be a fly on the wall as therapists discuss the practice of psychotherapy and how they implement self care into their own lives to prevent therapist burnout. Conversations about mindfulness, self compassion, The Daring Way™, EMDR, art therapy, Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, other somatic methods, trauma, parenting, attachment will get you thinking deeply about therapy and the universal experience of being human, with all the joy and pain that entails.

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This week I interviewed Antonieta Contreras about trauma therapy and the importance of a systemic approach to healing. We discussed misconceptions around trauma therapy, the importance of understanding the connection between trauma and the loss of internal equilibrium, and the role of nature, nurture, and consciousness in healing. Antonieta speaks about how she approaches therapy and how therapists can use her book, 'Traumatization and Its Aftermath,' to develop a systemic approach. Her book is packed with information on the experience of early trauma and its impact on identity development, and much more! Antonieta Contreras, LCSW-R, is a Gestalt trained psychotherapist in private practice in NYC and a Board member and Treasurer of the NY Association of Trauma Therapists (NYCATT). She is a consultant, supervisor and former faculty and co-director of ICP Trauma Studies Program. She is the author of the award winning book Traumatization and Its Aftermath (Routledge, 2023). Antonieta's website is found here. Find Antonieta's podcast, Ask Me About Trauma, here. Register for: Resilience Informed Therapy - An Integrative Somatic Approach to Trauma Recovery and get 12 CE's while learning from one of my favorite teachers, Dr. Arielle Schwartz!  Another of my favorite teachers, Dr. Janina Fisher, is opening enrollment to her next cohort of TIST trainees. The next cohort starts April 18th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to learn this helpful model. Receive 22.5 CE's while de-mystifying therapy when complex trauma and dissociation arise! Get all the details and register here!  Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week’s episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching toTherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code “chat” at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Join the TTN e-mail list to learn what's coming up in 2024 with Therapy Chat, Trauma Chat and Trauma Therapist Network and get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here – includes recommended books and trainings. Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.  Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey – https://petebailey.net/audio

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429: Traumatization + Its Aftermath: The Importance Of A Systemic Approach - With Antonieta Contreras

Therapists - there's so much important information in this conversation that you need to hear! In this conversation I spoke with Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge, who is an expert in PANS, PANDAS, and tick-borne illnesses as well as Autoimmune Encephalopathy (AE). Roseann shares about the symptoms, diagnosis, and holistic as well as allopathic treatment options for these conditions, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the sudden onset of neuropsychiatric issues without a trauma trigger while also speaking about how traumatic it can be for individuals and their families to suffer with these symptoms. The conversation highlights the need for therapists to be educated about these conditions, learn to support clients and find appropriate specialists to refer to for treatment of the health symptoms. The discussion sheds light on the prevalence of these illnesses and the challenges individuals face in getting proper diagnosis and treatment. Roseann also identifies how factors such as genetic mutations, nutrient deficiencies, and breaking of the blood-brain barrier can contribute to the development and worsening of these conditions.  Dr. Roseann is an Integrative Children’s Mental Health Expert and founder of The Global Institute of Children’s Mental Health. She is a Connecticut Certiﬁed School Psychologist, Board Certiﬁed Neurofeedback Provider (BCN), and the podcast host of the “It’s Gonna be Ok!™ with Dr. Roseann," the parenting resource for children's behavior and mental health. Dr. Roseann's website is found at: https://drroseann.com/ Join Dr. Roseann's upcoming Webinar Series on PANS/PANDAS + AE which begins 4/19/24 and save $60 on your registration using promo code: THERAPY  Register for: Resilience Informed Therapy - An Integrative Somatic Approach to Trauma Recovery and get 12 CE's while learning from one of my favorite teachers, Dr. Arielle Schwartz!  Another of my favorite teachers, Dr. Janina Fisher, is opening enrollment to her next cohort of TIST trainees. The next cohort starts April 18th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to learn this helpful model. Receive 22.5 CE's while de-mystifying therapy when complex trauma and dissociation arise! Get all the details and register here!  Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week’s episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching toTherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code “chat” at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Join the TTN e-mail list to learn what's coming up in 2024 with Therapy Chat, Trauma Chat and Trauma Therapist Network and get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here – includes recommended books and trainings. Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.  Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey – https://petebailey.net/audio

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428: The Trauma Of PANS/PANDAS, AE + Neuroinflammation With Dr. Roseann Capanna-Hodge

I named this episode "The Eyes Have It" to honor the fascinating connection my guest, Monique Hoving-Smeets, MFT describes between right and left eyes and awareness among parts of self in trauma work. Monique, a therapist based in Canada who specializes in complex trauma and dissociation, is the developer of the Trauma Regulation and Integration Model (TRIP). Among so many things, Monique also explores the internal attachment dynamics that can contribute to trauma and how TRIP helps to address these dynamics. She shares examples of how TRIP has been effective in treating chronic somatic symptoms and discusses ongoing research and future developments of the therapy. Monique Hoving-Smeets - MFT/CCC/RCC based on Vancouver Island, BC Canada, is the owmerof a private practice called RelationshipWorx and creator of the TRIP Trauma Regulation and Integration Process. In her private practice the majority of her clients present with trauma, complex trauma, religious and ritual abuse, dissociative disorders and attachment development injuries (presenting in so many different ways eg - chronic fatique, fibroymayalgia, depression, rage, perfectionism, disordered eating). Monique was born in the Netherlands, and has lived in 7 countries and considers Canada her permanent home.  Find Monique's TRIP group for therapists on Facebook here! TRIP is on Instagram here! Register for: Resilience Informed Therapy - An Integrative Somatic Approach to Trauma Recovery and get 12 CE's while learning from one of my favorite teachers, Dr. Arielle Schwartz!  Another of my favorite teachers, Dr. Janina Fisher, is opening enrollment to her next cohort of TIST trainees. The next cohort starts April 18th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to learn this helpful model. Receive 22.5 CE's while de-mystifying therapy when complex trauma and dissociation arise! Get all the details and register here!  There isn't much time left - register now! The Ultimate Refresh is a 6-day, all-inclusive retreat in Costa Rica for entrepreneurs and leaders who know that burning out is not an option, hosted by my friend Melissa Wesner! Join us this April 14-19, 2024 for an opportunity to rest, relax, and build community while having the most amazing wellness experiences in the jungle. Register here: https://lifespringcounseling.net/small-business-owners-retreat-in-costa-rica and save $200 using coupon code: GUILTFREE ! Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week’s episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching toTherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code “chat” at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Join the TTN e-mail list to learn what's coming up in 2024 with Therapy Chat, Trauma Chat and Trauma Therapist Network and get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here – includes recommended books and trainings. Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.  Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey – https://petebailey.net/audio

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427: The Eyes Have It - Trip: Trauma Regulation + Integration Process with Monique Hoving-Smeets

In this week's episode my guests are Dr. Ann Kelley and Sue Marriott, LCSW, hosts of Therapist Uncensored podcast and authors of the upcoming book, Secure Relating: Holding Your Own In An Insecure World. They discuss the importance of spreading secure relating and changing society through understanding attachment. They describe how their book challenges traditional views of attachment and proposes a spectrum of attachment patterns. We had a great conversation that I know you'll find interesting! Ann Kelley, PhD, (she/her) is a licensed psychologist in private practice, specializing in couples therapy from an integrative, attachment-based, relational framework. Sue Marriott , LCSW, CGP (she/her) has been running a private practice for over 25 years, seeing individuals and couples and leading multiple long-term psychotherapy groups. Find Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in An Insecure World on Amazon here.  Listen to Therapist Uncensored here. Learn about Ann & Sue's conference here. Register for: Resilience Informed Therapy - An Integrative Somatic Approach to Trauma Recovery and get 12 CE's while learning from one of my favorite teachers, Dr. Arielle Schwartz!  Another of my favorite teachers, Dr. Janina Fisher, is opening enrollment to her next cohort of TIST trainees. The next cohort starts April 18th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to learn this helpful model. Receive 22.5 CE's while de-mystifying therapy when complex trauma and dissociation arise! Get all the details and register here!  The Ultimate Refresh is a 6-day, all-inclusive retreat in Costa Rica for entrepreneurs and leaders who know that burning out is not an option, hosted by my friend Melissa Wesner! Join us this April 14-19, 2024 for an opportunity to rest, relax, and build community while having the most amazing wellness experiences in the jungle. Register here: https://lifespringcounseling.net/small-business-owners-retreat-in-costa-rica and save $200 using coupon code: GUILTFREE ! Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week’s episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching toTherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code “chat” at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Join the TTN e-mail list to learn what's coming up in 2024 with Therapy Chat, Trauma Chat and Trauma Therapist Network and get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here – includes recommended books and trainings. Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.  Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey – https://petebailey.net/audio

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426: Updating Our Understanding Of Attachment with Sue Marriott + Dr. Ann Kelley

Today's Therapy Chat guest is Dr. Peter Levine, the developer of Somatic Experiencing, who speaks about his journey as a wounded healer. He shares that by being open about our experiences healing, our authenticity allows others to know they're not alone. None of us in the helping professions have been immune to suffering, it's a part of the universal experience of being human; and there's no shame in having experienced trauma, no matter who you are. In our conversation, Dr. Levine shares about how he developed Somatic Experiencing, and the surprising muse he found during that process. He discusses his violent childhood growing up in a family which was under threat by the mafia, and how Somatic Experiencing approaches healing from trauma "stuck" in the body. Learn more about Somatic Experiencing here. The Ergos Institute is here. Find Peter Levine's new book, Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey on Amazon here. Register for: Resilience Informed Therapy - An Integrative Somatic Approach to Trauma Recovery and get 12 CE's while learning from one of my favorite teachers, Dr. Arielle Schwartz!  Another of my favorite teachers, Dr. Janina Fisher, is opening enrollment to her next cohort of TIST trainees. The next cohort starts April 18th, you won't want to miss this opportunity to learn this helpful model. Receive 22.5 CE's while de-mystifying therapy when complex trauma and dissociation arise! Get all the details and register here!  The Ultimate Refresh is a 6-day, all-inclusive retreat in Costa Rica for entrepreneurs and leaders who know that burning out is not an option, hosted by my friend Melissa Wesner! Join us this April 14-19, 2024 for an opportunity to rest, relax, and build community while having the most amazing wellness experiences in the jungle. Register here: https://lifespringcounseling.net/small-business-owners-retreat-in-costa-rica and save $200 using coupon code: GUILTFREE ! Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week’s episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching toTherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code “chat” at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Join the TTN e-mail list to learn what's coming up in 2024 with Therapy Chat, Trauma Chat and Trauma Therapist Network and get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here – includes recommended books and trainings. Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network.  Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey – https://petebailey.net/audio

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294: Bottom-Up + Top-Down Psychotherapy Methods For Trauma with Robyn Brickel

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