Episode 171: Camp Counselor Energy with Dr. Lizzie Cleary

Kate worries that everyone is hanging out without her and Doree experiences a colorful post-pandemic wardrobe revival. Then licensed clinical psychologist and Training Director at the Simms/Mann UCLA Center for Integrative Oncology, Dr. Lizzie Cleary comes on the pod to talk about reframing the narrative around work and self-care, what “big camp counselor energy” means, and how she’s maintained her college friendships for twenty years. 

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