In this conversation, Alicia, a trauma educator and consultant, discusses the systemic issues within education and parenting, emphasizing the impact of trauma on learning. The dialogue explores the oppressive nature of traditional schooling, the influence of capitalism on education, and the importance of emotional regulation and self-awareness in children. Alicia advocates for a shift in perspective towards unschooling and a focus on nurturing children's emotional well-being rather than adhering to conventional metrics of success. The conversation culminates in a call to action for systemic change in how we approach education and parenting, highlighting the need for compassion and understanding in raising children.