Nate and Scott discuss  what they have worked through since the beginning of the COVID-19 shutdown, and where they are now. Within this conversation Nate and Scott discuss the statement released by John MacArthur and the elders of Grace Community Church, in Sunny Valley, CA., on why they are defying the orders of their governor. Nate and Scott also discuss how Romans 13, and the Christians submission to the governing authorities, should be applied today.