For a lot of us, planning ahead can be hard. And it's so much work. But. There are times when you just have to because life is really dang hard. Today Liz and Ash chat about how they cope with the nonsense life brings.

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Also, we apologize for the chaos in this episode, but life got in the way.

This podcast may contain themes of trauma, flashbacks, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.

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