This week on Cougars Uncaged, Lonnie Pries and Kylie Walker sit down with two incredible Cleary University leaders — Dean of Undergraduate Studies, Kelly Genei, and Associate Professor, Justine Defever.

Get ready for laughs, inspiration, and surprises as Kelly and Justine share their unique paths to Cleary — from plastics recycling to academia, and from residence life to leadership.

They dive into their passion for DECA, their favorite Cleary campus spots, rapid-fire fun (including weirdest foods eaten and pet peeves), and a competitive showdown naming Michigan universities. 

🎧 Listen in to see how these two educators are helping shape Cleary’s student experience — one class (and comma splice) at a time.